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D 8 vs XP

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Slick

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We just got back from a good trip, had lots of chances to compare two Dragons to 2 XP's and an 07 800 Rev 159, a 900 RMK 166 and a couple Yammi's. Dragons and XP were all 163's. One Dragon SLP piped, one stock, XP's were vented, 1 with after market driven, 1 with cold air kit, no belt troubles. Guys are all very experienced tuners, know what they're doing. All were happy with their clutching set-up except the one XP had a tad much weight in the primary.. Snow was 2 - 2.5 ft fresh.
2 days and pretty tough to pick a clear winner, definetly no stand-outs. The o7 and the RMK were close, the Dragons and XP's traded high marks if they ran new snow only. If they ran up a track, the Dragons were hands down winners, but nobody cares much about poaching. Same old problems for the Doo's, as soon as the clutches heat up from consecutive runs, their marks got lower. In my mind, big advantage to Poo in clutching, everyone learned fast if you want to beat em, keep em moving. Polaris track is suspect in the majority opinion, too soft even in the snow we were in, Doo track performed way better overall. Test was pretty fair, had same guy on each sled for comparisons, bigger men then smaller guys. Results pretty much the same with heavy or light riders. Dragon comments were, narrow running boards, rougher trail manners, bad seat shape. Doo misses were crappy wind protection, no storage, sticky clutching, motor seemed to play out a bit on really long pulls.
Good group of realists, some with brand loyalty, everyone came away agreeing, no one would bet the farm on either one.
Oh gas mileage, small advantage to XP.
Good sleds, lots of fun for 150 HP sleds.
 
One more aspect, in the really deep no bottom tree ridin, no real advantage was given to either one, everyone marked em pretty even, tho the smaller boards made it sometimes hard to keep your feet in when the snow got built up in the footwells of the Poo. Diving thru the creeks the Doo gives more snow into the riders face in the fluffy stuff.
 
THANKS SLICK, IS A VERY HONEST TESTIMONIAL, and is about what I have seen in my riding...xp's and my dragon trading marks pretty regular...
 
thank god it was even or this thread would already have 3 pages of of inane chatter! I'm still waiting to ride an XP so I can be a believer too:D so far the ones I have seen so far the riders are just putt putting around.:(

thanks for the honest comparisons, sounds like what most people were thinking beyond the typical pissin matchs here on SW!
 
Oh ! come on that was to close, can't you read into it ???

Nice comparison , I'll leave this one alone this time...:D
 
Sorry Cat guys, would have loved to have one along to throw into the mix, but didn't have one with us to compare.
 
Ride with'em side by side and they seem to be neck to neck to me. Both the doo & poo snowchecked long tracked and both with upgraded clutching and venting.

Its very easy to tell the better rider does better regardless of which sled he is on!! The D8 seem to do a little better side hilling/boondoggin. It seems to keep the angle of approch with less effort but again more likely the rider.

XP's are fragile though!! Broke windshield and riser when rider went faster then sled...........superman filp over the handlebar!!! And the plastic stuff on the handle bar have broke off priorto that.

Also I can't reallytell its a ton lighter they both get stuck very well with the 160's tracks!!!!

Both are awsome sled in almost stock form and note this XP has not been eatin' belts. Think he is still on the first one with a ton of spares since everyone told him they gonna blow!!!

Can't wait to see what comes next year or the year after that and so on!!!

Nice post
 
wow, good review. I ride with xp's, d8's, d7's and m1000's. They all work good, have thier highs and lows. I'm partial to the poo (because i have one) but they all work good. I just like to ride, don't care what everyone else is riding
 
I've also done a fair amount of comparing and have found the XP has a slightly better launch but appears to put less power down the farther up the mountain you go. When the Doo's get the jump the D8's reel them in and drive on by with a couple more MPH ground speed.
 
Just got done riding, the D8 usually climbed a tad higher and seemed to run up those open side hills a little faster than the XP but it was close and there was some swapping. The D8 did have a more experienced rider but weighed probably 50 pounds more on a heavier sled.

Lastly, my 900 climbed higher than both and dominated on those climbs with no run ups.

One thing the XP one at was those off camber down hill side hills, it looked a lot more stable than the IQ.
 
Slick--good review--appreciate a honest test:D--sometimes we all get a little brand happy :eek:but we all know all we really want is more snow to ride and have fun.:)
 
OK, I started this comparison thread so I believe I have the right to end it. And seeing as the last 2 posts were from pinheaded dip$hitswith nothing but dum-a$$ comments , and assuming it'll all be infantile bull**** from here on, I say lets end it.
 
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