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bigbird
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If you don't know how to ride this may be true, they do just fine in the trees.
Cost per km - 4 stroke vs 2 stroke
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If you don't know how to ride this may be true, they do just fine in the trees.
I had an 03 RX1 MTN with a 159 inch track, i rode it for 30 miles and promptly sold that overweight nose burying pig!! It would out climb any of the sleds that were there that day hands down but try to side hill that thing on hard pack! With all of my 215 lbs hangin off the side it was still trying to roll down the hill!! I would like to try out a nytro and i really do hope that they are better but i could beat that RX in the trees with a 500 indy trail
If you're burning $5 of oil for every $10 worth of gas, something is wrong.
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b1dodge
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What about when your 4 stroke is on its lid? It must be my lack of skills .if you tip your yamaha over its glug glug glug your 13 dollar a quart yamalube all over the mountain side, engine, hood the clutches, belt seat ,clothes, gloves...Dont lie guys and say it dont happen. I have both 2 and 4 strokes and it has happened to me a number of times. So much for "clean 4 strokes"
And then when you tip the 4 stroker back over, it can't be started for a bit because of the "low oil" sensor!
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Duke
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If I remember correctly its not usually the tbo'd 4 strokes we have trouble getting out of ****ty spots, over saddles, outta ravines, stuck in the deep snow in the trees, etc, etc. These sleds take boondocking to a whole new level.
The only guys that say 4 strokes are point and shoot only, have no seat time on one, or couldn't ride a sick a whore off a piss pot.
I'll go boondocking in the trees anytime, the steeper and deeper the better. 
The only guys that say 4 strokes are point and shoot only, have no seat time on one, or couldn't ride a sick a whore off a piss pot.
I'll go boondocking in the trees anytime, the steeper and deeper the better. 
I was a 4 stroke hater until I did a t- nytro. I was an awesome sled. I don't believe you can do the same things in the trees that you can do with a turbo 2 stroke. They will go good in the trees but the weight wears on you after a while. You can take all the weight in the world off them but you can't get enough off the front where they really need it. To say they are useless means you are a poor rider or don't have a clue. I went back to a t- 2 stroke and for me is more fun. Sometimes I wish I had the 4 for the power but for me the 2 stroke is all around more fun. The 4 stroke is cheaper by the mile until you factor a turbo and light weight parts in. They say the are cleaner but I've leaked more oil over the mountain with a 4 stroke than I ever did with a 2. Ride what you want and who cares.
Take the amount of money it takes to build a decent T-nytro, and spend it on an M8... you're not even playing the same game on the 4stroke. They work, they're fun, but it's just not the same kind of machine. I look at the kind of miles we have on M8's & the idea that a 2 stroke is more expensive is just plain silly.
Once they build a 4stroke that's under 500 lbs... I'm SO there!! I'd love to get one, thought I'd be on one by now but there's no way I'm riding a sled that's 150+ lbs heavier than my 1000 (lots of weight taken off, but not a ton of $$ spent).
Just curious, what IS the lightest that people are getting 4 strokes to? (Yammi, Doo 1200... I don't care, just curious)
Once they build a 4stroke that's under 500 lbs... I'm SO there!! I'd love to get one, thought I'd be on one by now but there's no way I'm riding a sled that's 150+ lbs heavier than my 1000 (lots of weight taken off, but not a ton of $$ spent).
Just curious, what IS the lightest that people are getting 4 strokes to? (Yammi, Doo 1200... I don't care, just curious)
we find if your goal is the open big big climbs the tnitro is the way, but in the trees you will not ride it all day , just too heavy, and when its on its lid, oil is all over the place, what riding you want to do, is what machine is for you
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Ak nitro
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The thread started out as the cost per km/mile, as four strokes being cheaper than two strokes to operate daily, and than it turned into a pi##ing match over what every body rides themselves. Well I will say I have had many two strokes before building my two turbo Yamahas, and yes the turbo yamahas are way cheaper day to day to operate than my old stock two smokes. I have rolled my T nytro many times down the side of mountains and have yet to lose more than a few ounces of oil at time, the claims of having to carry three quarts of oil makes me laugh. I change the oil once a season, I do not have to add it every time I ride like injection oil, and everyone who has had to buy the polaris VES gold knows that stuff is not cheap. I run mobil 1 not yama lube, just as good way cheaper. Not to mention I change my belts at the end of the season on my Yamahas just because I feel I should, not because I have too, at only $45 dollers a belt from south seattle sports plaza, way cheaper than my rmk 900 belts that were pushing $140 a belt and still only lasted a hundred miles. The only maintenance I have to do on my Yamahas is change drive bearings and new clutch springs after thousands of miles of issue free riding, I guess after so many years of riding two strokes, it just feels wrong to be able to ride so much with so little problems.
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sled-fiend
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b1dodge
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pissing match? no pissing match here. I ride all and report all.... these are what happens year to year. I rode one belt last season on my nytro and I rode one belt on my m8 ....m8 about 1400 miles and nytro close to the same.
I have lightened mine (08 nytro mtx MCX 320hp)up to 560 lbs ready to ride (10 gal trail tank and 2 gallons on the back) For those of you who say the front is to heavy I have over 30 lbs knocked off the front.
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