I doubt that riders all of a sudden got more aggressive and negligent to there sleds lol .
This is a c5 problem not a g4 problem remember.
This is a c5 problem not a g4 problem remember.
Chain case life Gen 5
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Correct, but if there isn’t a problem then one should have about the same amount of chain case issues with the G4. I haven’t heard of any!
100% right
i have see G4 chains busted from abuse and lack of maintenance. It can happen
i appreciate your input on various topics and i hear what you're saying about people bashing this and that and taking out frustrations whether justified or not on company reps. it's the nature of people combined with the anonymity of forums. having said that, there are times when the concerns and frustrations are warranted as is this situation plus there is a precedent which would be the '17 belt issues. i'm sure initially it was blamed on operator error until BRP started improving the cooling (and i think engine alignment) on subsequent year models which is admission of a problem. seems like the same thing here. if you're at all objective about this then the fact that this same problem is happening to a newly redesigned component that's very soon into it's implementation can't be passed off as guys riding too hard or improper chain tensioning, or that sh*t does happen or whatever. the number of instances has to far exceed whatever BRP has determined is an acceptable failure rate only a few moths in. a guy i spoke with who's a sledder and involved in the aftermarket world with a well respected company who mentioned over 50 blown cases that he personally knew of and that was a month ago. been a few more instances posted on the forums just in the last day plus the decision to go to a weaker chain on a stronger engine is irritating to many.
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I ride with 5 other gen 5 with 500km to 2600km and no chaincase issues so…
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Helped a friend yesterday do a routine maintenance check on his new G5 Summit Edge 850 N/A, he had been on Polaris and this is his first Ski Doo, so his prior sleds had belt drives. Ask him if he was checking his chain tension and he didn't even know to check it. Long story short, with 200 miles on the sled it took 8 clicks to bring the chain tension into spec.
Do not know how loose the chain needs to be to cause a failure but 8 clicks is way to loose.
Do not know how loose the chain needs to be to cause a failure but 8 clicks is way to loose.
That’s crazy!
They're machines, they all have their issues. If the chain case worries you there is plenty of options out there to address this (TKI fix kit, belt drives, upgraded gears/chain). It sucks but like I said take your pick of manufacturer, they all have their weaknesses and thankfully most have aftermarket solutions to remedy the weaknesses. It is truly amazing that these things hold up to the abuse at all to what people are putting them through. I see all these whips/ re-entries and crazy acrobat landings where the sled goes from WOT with no load to instant load when landing sideways. Things will break. I for one have installed the TKI fix kit and thankfully my chain didn't have any signs of weird stretching or binding up. My oil was super clean but I wanted to be proactive and do the fix. My Polaris sleds have their weaknesses too, and so does cat. I am glad though we can share info and hopefully get ahead of the weak points.
After 3 months of owning my c5 and countless hours and dollars of refining I’m ready to call it a G5 the sled is amazing now and I’m completely happy with it now . Just the extra costs suck but I’m used to extra cost to make something my own . Happy riding boys and gals
^^^^^That is probably the reason for a lot of the issues. Folks not knowing anything about chain case maintenance. Dealers need to do a better job educating folks, I think.
Of coarse the decision to use the naturally aspirated chain and gears in the turbos, is going to cause issues as well.
Due to the fact that chain is not rated for the higher horse power. It will handle it for a while…. but how long is the question.
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i don't think much if anything has to do with folks not knowing about chain maintenance. if that were the case, we'd see this every year. the difference is this new design and not people.
it's a classic case of new model bugs that nees to be worked out.
as for me, i'm good with the TKI kit and hyvo replacement parts. i'll be snowchecking soon enough and ideally the prob will be sorted by then.
it's a classic case of new model bugs that nees to be worked out.
as for me, i'm good with the TKI kit and hyvo replacement parts. i'll be snowchecking soon enough and ideally the prob will be sorted by then.
Been seeing pics of grooved tensioners like a lot have been overtightened… which is understandable, it is hard to know what your tension is like without seeing the chain.
People were told to keep the chains tight so they did . That makes marks in the tensioner
Check and set the chain off movement of the secondary like we have been told for years. Carl put out a video few years back making it clear as possible.
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Seems those that have ridden Doo and do their maintenance aren’t having issues. Talked to a guy the other day new to Doo and he assumed the chain was auto tensioned. Might be an opportunity for dealers to discuss a couple key maintenance items such as proper chain tension at time of purchase. Not saying there isn’t any issues with new design but you’de be surprised with those who aren’t maintenance savvy, watching videos or checking forums or take the time to familiarize themselves with sled manual. The quality of labour these days is also questionable, ie assembly. We’ve entered a new era where power is king, we asked for this from manufacturers and now it appears some components haven’t caught up, all brands alike. Just my 2 cents!
Only time will tell!
