Ya hah. The top pic i was landing in kinda down hill area. Bottom was for sure to flat but pretty fresh snow made it soft.Huck it to flat!
Lol.
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Anthony Oberti
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I have the Carls revalve, but ride with, and have rode many sleds with Exits. I think they are both great set ups and very comparable. If you have all the money in the world, the Exit uses an after market spring that is better than stock. But in a back to back comparison last year, I found them very close. The Carls revalve uses a high quality after market piston(Fox I believe). I would argue the internals of both shocks are very similar. And I would just revalve the rear track shock, I don't think the front track shock does that much.
What is the cost to revalve the two rear shocks through Carl's and TRS? Are they doing the same thing or do they both have their own approach to making the stock shocks work better.
At Carl's the rears only are $360 and to do them all $550. That price includes a new weight specific spring in the rear.
They say 3 week turnaround from day they receive as of yesterday's correspondence
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Spaarky
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Tony(TRS) you have to send them to Rogers in Cody. Ask for Dustin. Tell them you want Tonys valving. Tony will do it sometimes. I want to say the last set we did with valving and spring change was $400. If you can do shocks his valve stack is listed right on the forum. He doesn't do it to make a bunch of money. Just trying to help people out.
The bonus is if you have a turbo. If you have sled that wheelies, just a slight turn on the RTS Spring and it's fixed.
Everything he has ever suggested we do, just flat out works. I haven't ever received a lick of bad advice from him.
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Spaarky
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Sorry missed one thing. If you do TRS's you do all 4! They work together.
Just some food for thought..... Say you buy a set of Raptors or Exits for ~$2000... The going rate for used shocks is around ~$1500... Say you ride them for a year or two, and want to keep them for your next new sled (assuming they'll still work) you can put the stockers back on (as long as you were smart enough to keep them) and sell the old sled. OR you can sell the said Raptors or Exits for the approximate going rate of ~$1500 which is a loss of ~$500. Now, say you want to do the Carls revalve, Which just so happens to be approximately ~$500. You will be selling the sled with the Carl's revalved shocks no matter what, unless you somehow find a way to get your hands on another set of stock shocks to avoid this, so in the end both choices come out to be an approximate total loss of ~$500. Now I realize not everyone can justify sinking $2000 into a snowmobile like that, $500 is a lot easier to swallow, but this was a large factor in my decision before I ordered my Raptors. Now I've never ridden a sled with Carl's revalved shocks, and I don't doubt they work damn good, but I kind of looked at it as an investment perspective, with high hopes my Raptors will work on whatever changes come aboard to the Axys platform in the next few years...
who did you talk to?
I have received a different quote every time I have called.
One time, it seemed like nobody had any idea what I was talking about. this was at the end of last season though
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Spaarky
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What happens this year when they modify the A arms and utilize a different shock length? Your resale value seems a bit high to me too, but that's my opinion. I understand what you are saying. I just won't buy another set of aftermarket coil overs. Until someone can put me on a sled that is substantially better.
Exact same thought process I had. Jake from Raptor said swapping components over to make these fit a different sled is pretty simple and can be done for a fairly low cost including a rebuild.
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It makes sense... That said I went to sell my raptors for a pro ride and I couldnt get $800 for em, no bs. They were the 17.5" fronts, for the 11-12 pro or 11-15 standard, but I still would have thought I would be able to move them for $1200 no problem.
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Spaarky
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We can argue all day long about what's more economical. None of it is. I have the fever probably as much as anyone on the planet. Sledding is a $100 bill bonfire. There is not one thing economical about it. Pick what you want and get out the torch. Sledding and sledding parts has the worst resale in the world.
My daughters are getting into dirt bikes. I was shocked at how the bikes hold value. I was like "WTF, dads getting one too".
My daughters are getting into dirt bikes. I was shocked at how the bikes hold value. I was like "WTF, dads getting one too".
I kinda agree. I don't think if you spend $2000 on shocks that two years, or even one year later you will get $1500. I figure after two years, the average depreciation of most parts is around 50%. But I did this same plan with Exit X1 shocks on my 2011 Pro. Turned them around and put them on my 2013 Pro. That was five years of awesome shocks on my sleds! Bliss!
You can have a really good company like Exit (probably Raptor too) rebody the shock for a much cheaper price than buying new. Chances are it's a good time to have them rebuilt anyway if you've used the shocks for a year or two. I would think that Fox might not offer this service as they are more of a cookie cutter corp than a smaller hands on company like Zbroz and Raptor.
I understand my numbers were pretty relative, but a set of raptors or exits from a 13-15 pro can be modified to fit a 16 or 17 axys so the chance of them fitting the next gen sled is pretty high, which is what I'm hoping for and what helped make my decision to pull the trigger.
Part of this might be a more knowledgable sales guy could be quoting things like seals and bushings ect not knowing how worn your shocks are. I know i was quite one thing and when i picked them up it was a bit less because my shocks had about 100 miles on them
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I just sent their performance dept an email and that's what I got back from them. And he did mention that price included new seals and spring if needed, so I guess there is a chance could be less.
I was more shocked at the 3 week turnaround time. Seems a bit long but again maybe that's their safe quote as well
I saw the Raptor triple rate springs are $280. Thinking that would be a nice addition for the stock clicker shocks.
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ggcustoms
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Best post ever? All in favor say aye.
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Spaarky
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I understand, but how much will you have into the modification. Shaft change, ends if they aren't the same. Rebuild, maybe valving, shipping. You might be money ahead by selling and buying new. Who knows... I can't even pick out a helmet I like, that's way too many decisions for something that isn't suppose to be stressful.
It's a vicious cycle. Then you throw tracks, drivers, turbos, clutch parts on top of it too. Yikes.
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