Carbon Sled P22 Fix Kit
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we do many P22 clutches...we find that the movable sheave bushings are going bad right away, even new ones seem loose...We find some clutches with 400 miles need a total rebuild and the next one with 1200 miles is fine!!! Very random wearing on the P22...most have black belt marks on the sheaves, the sheaves are not clean...I have found a few that the belt goes to the top of the clutch but most are 3/4 from top....just very random even from 2023 to 2025....
Thanks for the recognition. I agree I was dumb for initially believing in both examples listed. Falling on the sword and showing humility is an attribute of solid leadership. It leads to continuous improvement.
And it's why only you could be Chilly's mentor...
If you talk to the folks at Carl's, they'll tell you they feel a properly maintained p22 will perform better than a p85. I called them up ready to pull the trigger on a p85 and they convinced me otherwise
What is the proper maintenance on a P22? Only asking because I have seen so much hate and not much talk about how to make them perform.
So there is a kit available that is to use Polaris weights and pins in a Yamaha clutch. The kit includes bushings to reduce the pin hole size to the same as the P85 uses. These bushings are designed to allow the pin to rotate with the weight like Cat clutches do. The Cat weights have a set screw to lock the weight on to the pin. You can used Cat weights with the set screw and drill your pin holes on the clutch and insert these bushings. This will give way more stability to the weight to stop the twisting and bushing wear. The outboard bushings now have much more surface area too. I planned on doing this to my P85's but never got around to it. My only question is why has nobody else come up with a kit specifically for the P85 to acomplish this??
Cat had a really good idea with the pin and weight rotating together so the weight bushing doesn’t wear. That little dam Allen set screw was a real PITA to get out though.
I e had pretty good luck with my p-85 weight bushings lasting a while. Usually check them a couple times a year.
I e had pretty good luck with my p-85 weight bushings lasting a while. Usually check them a couple times a year.
I rub the pins down with dry powder graphite. In 36 years I have only changed i
1 set of weight bushings.
1 set of weight bushings.
It seemed like my ssi turbo clutching on my silber 800 axys really is hard on the bushings. Its like an annual thing to figure out how far im gonna get out of bushings.
If you think about the iniertia exerted on the weight from accelleration, and then chopping the throttle, it must rip it back and forth pretty dramatically on the pin. This is why I believe they wear so much. A 9R would be the worst for this as it hits so hard and fast. A slower revvving sled or a non-aggresive rider should get much more life out of a set of bushings. The gouging of the spider from the weights is a clear indicator of this scenario, For the P85 weight shims are a must.
Chilly is still busy everyday attending sessions with his therapist. He traded my mentoring sessions for a liberal therapist following his 24 hour time out from this forums admin. The hurt he endured from that action has him seeking out his proper pronouns. I hope he recovers.
As for his position on the P-22, he still thinks it’s a magnificent piece of mechanical engineering. It’s one of many reasons he is the forum expert.
Ahh, makes sense he'd side with the P-22: it sounds like he's working hard to unburdened himself from what has been. That's one of the hallmarks of a forum expert, for sure. I've been trying to unburden my feeble mind, but I just can't afford the kind of expert help he can.
Where do you buy the weight shims?
Has anyone found the carbon fix kit available online? Everywhere I look it's sold out.
Mid-December is when the next batch with be available I have been told.
I’m kind of surprised at the number of guys still hanging on to the P-22. Beyond the quality trouble, it kills performance in the worst way cause of the larger diameter on the bottom. So you’re starting in 3rd gear. Even if it was the most durable thing in the world, it just turns the sled into a dog. Don’t be a dog lover!
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