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Can we change the name of fouled plug?

Curious on how the government is saying how much money is enough for someone.

You clearly are not informed! Obama has repeatedly said rich people have more money than they need and it should be given to the poor. That's socialism bud, plain and simple. One of the things that has made this country great is the belief that if you are smart and work hard there is no limit to what you can achieve and earn. Do you remember Joe the plumber? Just one more example of many where Obama and his liberal buddies want to fundamentally change what has made this country great. He HAS to be a one term president, or we are in deep ****tttttte!!
 
I think most of the difference is that many of the people with very high incomes are compensated with stocks and other things that fall under capital gains taxes instead of income. When you take there "total" tax rate or "net" as you were, it appears to be lower.

The rich in this country pay over 60% of the total taxes. So that's the top 10% paying over 60%.

If you think for one minute raising taxes on the rich is going to do anything, then you are wrong. I spent most of my life working for large corporations and I was one of those guys in the corner office. It's easy for smart people to insure they keep their money. Wake up America! it's spending that is killing us, not a lack of revenue. It's easy to hate people who are smarter or richer than you.

It may make the uninformed feel good to hear Obama say he is going to squeeze those bad old rich guys, but it does nothing to help this country.

I ask you did you ever earn a paycheck from a poor guy? I doubt it!
 
The rich in this country pay over 60% of the total taxes. So that's the top 10% paying over 60%.
true. But what does that have to do with anything? If you don't think that is correct, then what should the number be?

If you think for one minute raising taxes on the rich is going to do anything, then you are wrong.
I think it would increase the revenues a bit...

I spent most of my life working for large corporations and I was one of those guys in the corner office. It's easy for smart people to insure they keep their money.
How did you do it?

Wake up America! it's spending that is killing us, not a lack of revenue.
Agreed 100%. We need to reduce spending in the country drastically.

It's easy to hate people who are smarter or richer than you.
I think that these days it is easy to hate anyone for any reason at all. But you are correct, they are demonized due to jealousy. Americans are pounded routinely via all media that they "deserve" a break, "deserve" a big house, "deserve" nice things. They must get frustrated when they have to face reality that they are poor and will always be poor.
 
Sure, the rich pay 60% of the taxes. The upper one third also makes/holds 90-95% of total value in the entire country. So, it actually seems that they are getting away with quite a bit....never look at things one dimensionally.

And considering the number of very wealthy folks saying they would like to pay their dues, it seems they know it too.

And yes, success is easy to hate. I have Armenian heritage, and I know what the Turks thought of their success. How about 2 genocides to go with my history? Though we here is the fine U.S. of A. don't acknowledge that past because we would loose our airfields there if we do...but those that got out keep educating themselves as the only thing they can't take from you is your mind....at least at this point.:face-icon-small-con
 
Perhaps he is referring to the arguing over the latest addition to taxing? To be honest, the rich in this country do not pay their dues. Most of the proposed increases to their taxation would be reduced reimbursement for 'charitable' things (often them donating to their own causes and then being able to do what they want for free-I love how rich people think). From the few 'elite' I have rubbed shoulders with over the years, I can tell you they laugh at how easy it is to get out of paying...


Yep, all these people saying that we have to "Tax the Rich". That will solve the problem. I have to laugh when people say that. The wealthy in this country don't make any money, (On Paper). If you do make the big bucks and get a W-2, you are screwed. But otherwise, it can all be buried. I know, I am a multi-Thousandaire.
 
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.
2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.
3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/medicare/2011/03/28/biggest-u-s-companies-pay-no-federal-tax/
 
funny how ron paul seems to be the best fit for our situation, yet, when corporate media talks about candidates standings in the race, they RARELY mention ron paul. almost as if he's being completely censored. when bill orielly interviewed him, ron paul was making some major points in a common sense sort of way, and all of a sudden bill starts interupting every word ron says. he'll ask him a question, and when he starts to give an answer bill doesnt like, bill starts interupting, raising his voice, and cutting him off.

the only reason we're in the position we're in right now, is because of corporate giants. insurance, cops writing tickets for any reason they can just to collect revenue, taxes, HUGE price mark-up on necessities (mainly oil, and other energy sources), they're all ways to funnel money back to the federal reserves. then obama comes on air, gives a speach to the american people with a frown on his face as he addresses his speach. telling US its time to step up to the plate and stop screwin around. like its OUR fault. i want to kick him in his teeth. he's a puppet. a salesman. he works for wallstreet, just as any president does. the last TRUE president we had was kennedy, as he spoke of injustices happening in the government, and how the abuse of power is very real. then he was randomly assasinated. corporate media mentions every other candidate, yet, the only candidate mentioning any of the injustices, the establishment, and the stuff that actually matters right now, is ron paul and they're censoring the crap out of him.
 
funny how ron paul seems to be the best fit for our situation, yet, when corporate media talks about candidates standings in the race, they RARELY mention ron paul. almost as if he's being completely censored. when bill orielly interviewed him, ron paul was making some major points in a common sense sort of way, and all of a sudden bill starts interupting every word ron says. he'll ask him a question, and when he starts to give an answer bill doesnt like, bill starts interupting, raising his voice, and cutting him off.

the only reason we're in the position we're in right now, is because of corporate giants. insurance, cops writing tickets for any reason they can just to collect revenue, taxes, HUGE price mark-up on necessities (mainly oil, and other energy sources), they're all ways to funnel money back to the federal reserves. then obama comes on air, gives a speach to the american people with a frown on his face as he addresses his speach. telling US its time to step up to the plate and stop screwin around. like its OUR fault. i want to kick him in his teeth. he's a puppet. a salesman. he works for wallstreet, just as any president does. the last TRUE president we had was kennedy, as he spoke of injustices happening in the government, and how the abuse of power is very real. then he was randomly assasinated. corporate media mentions every other candidate, yet, the only candidate mentioning any of the injustices, the establishment, and the stuff that actually matters right now, is ron paul and they're censoring the crap out of him.

and you talk about bailouts for banks and automakers. the bailouts for automakers were to help keep jobs. billions and billions went to these bailouts. yet, many people were still laid off. so what was the purpose of the bailouts? my take on it? i say, that too, is just a clever little way for the reserves to increase our debt, and collect more money.
 
funny how ron paul seems to be the best fit for our situation, yet, when corporate media talks about candidates standings in the race, they RARELY mention ron paul. almost as if he's being completely censored. when bill orielly interviewed him, ron paul was making some major points in a common sense sort of way, and all of a sudden bill starts interupting every word ron says. he'll ask him a question, and when he starts to give an answer bill doesnt like, bill starts interupting, raising his voice, and cutting him off.

the only reason we're in the position we're in right now, is because of corporate giants. insurance, cops writing tickets for any reason they can just to collect revenue, taxes, HUGE price mark-up on necessities (mainly oil, and other energy sources), they're all ways to funnel money back to the federal reserves. then obama comes on air, gives a speach to the american people with a frown on his face as he addresses his speach. telling US its time to step up to the plate and stop screwin around. like its OUR fault. i want to kick him in his teeth. he's a puppet. a salesman. he works for wallstreet, just as any president does. the last TRUE president we had was kennedy, as he spoke of injustices happening in the government, and how the abuse of power is very real. then he was randomly assasinated. corporate media mentions every other candidate, yet, the only candidate mentioning any of the injustices, the establishment, and the stuff that actually matters right now, is ron paul and they're censoring the crap out of him.

and you talk about bailouts for banks and automakers. the bailouts for automakers were to help keep jobs. billions and billions went to these bailouts. yet, many people were still laid off. so what was the purpose of the bailouts? my take on it? i say, that too, is just a clever little way for the reserves to increase our debt, and collect more money.


are you trying to argue with yourself?
 
then obama comes on air, gives a speach to the american people with a frown on his face as he addresses his speach. telling US its time to step up to the plate and stop screwin around. like its OUR fault. i want to kick him in his teeth. .

It is our fault. We have replaced our ability to think and to voice our opinion with political talking points. We are lazy, and stupid. We soak up politicians speeches as the holy grail, then turn a blind eye when none of it happens. Then we forget all of it even occured when the next election cycle occurs.

Check out this podcast. I have been listening to this guy, and I like the points / views on subjects he brings up.

http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/c...grading-the-Electorate/supreme-court-campaign
 
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It is our fault. We have replaced our ability to think and to voice our opinion with political talking points. We are lazy, and stupid. We soak up politicians speeches as the holy grail, then turn a blind eye when none of it happens. Then we forget all of it even occured when the next election cycle occurs.

Check out this podcast. I have been listening to this guy, and I like the points / views on subjects he brings up.

http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/c...grading-the-Electorate/supreme-court-campaign

its not our fault. when you have the greedy global elite running the world and the financial systems, its very easy to manipulate the money flow. very very easy.
 
its not our fault. when you have the greedy global elite running the world and the financial systems, its very easy to manipulate the money flow. very very easy.
Voters run the world... we would just rather not use it appropriately and eat Oreo's instead....
 
Voters run the world... we would just rather not use it appropriately and eat Oreo's instead....

you're taught in elementary that voters run the world. we're taught that america is great, and we're free, and we have nothing to worry about. its a form of mind control.

the most common form of mind control is repetition.

as we get older, we realize, that everything we were ever taught in school is all false, and a lie, and one huge manipulation.
 
fine and dandy, but that is just an apathetic excuse for people to do nothing...

well... thats false.. millions are doing everything they can to expose whats going on, but they're censored by corporate media. and they've been censoring people since the holocaust days.
 
well... thats false.. millions are doing everything they can to expose whats going on, but they're censored by corporate media. and they've been censoring people since the holocaust days.
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There are a lot less conspiracies out there than people really think...
 
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There are a lot less conspiracies out there than people really think...

lol u have no idea. and "conspiracy theory" is a phrase meant for close minded unaware people, who will hear the phrase and then automatically completely ignore the matter. and most conspiracy theories now days that were denied are now proven, and no one is denying them anymore.
 
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