Can Polaris improve on the Pro?
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snowmobiler
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got all summer to soup up them poo's.dont wanna get spanked by t3's and vipers next winter.
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rmscustom
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Not too worried about a band aided chassis and a 4 year old failure of a chassis mated with a 5-6 year old heavy azz weak motor that needs boost to even be mentioned in the same sentence as the current 2s options. lol
Whatever rep power is, that sno'biler account has none of it, even with all those posts and 'thanks'. You gotta really work at something like that. Kinda feel sorry for the little dude, charity ride time, maybe.
Yes.
Always room for improvement.
We have a 2013, and a 2014. Rear bumper sucks. I really don't care for the pin thingy's that fasten the side panels. Motor reliability is a must. Oil leaking out of the Y-pipe exhaust connection point.
Make the hood lighter, LED lights. Keep making improvements to the QD belt and the drive belt without raping the owner.
Always room for improvement.
We have a 2013, and a 2014. Rear bumper sucks. I really don't care for the pin thingy's that fasten the side panels. Motor reliability is a must. Oil leaking out of the Y-pipe exhaust connection point.
Make the hood lighter, LED lights. Keep making improvements to the QD belt and the drive belt without raping the owner.
more so the tunnel but the base of the tunnel at the foot locations if you jump it at all.
i see reinforcements from the aftermarket guys for it but none for the others why is this? same for the motor fix kits btw i have yet to see a zuki 800 fix kit.
as for the back of the tunnel lets put 2.5 gal on the back of yours and mine and go for a ride with some jump and bumps, the end of the day will tell the tale.
at some point light has to meet function and i love what poo is doing for the push on the light stuff but it DOES suffer in a few areas that can be fixed with just a bit more metal.
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rmscustom
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Motor??? Well I'm not even going there, I think we all know what that's about.
Tunnel to bulkhead on the Pro is kinda weak. If you ride hard and tear arms off multiple times a season put a kit on from somebody. The one I put on weighed less than the beer I drank while doing it. The back of the tunnel on the Pro is stronger than the other two. The new cat without the cooling in the back is super weak. If your gonna strap 2.5 gallons of gas on the Pro not tight to the seat or put a skid that couples and pound moguls you better address that area to.
I'll take the Pro "issues" over the other's issues until something changes my mind... Might be awhile. lol
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snowmobiler
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WTF?.i got ripped off.somebody stole all my rep.LOL.
OK. WTH is rep Power?
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rmscustom
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If you get enough rep power Christopher gives you a cookie and a Yamaha sticker.
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Jaynelson
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The exaggerations on this site are always funny.
Reinforcement kits for Doo's and Cats most definitely exist. XP's (now XM's) have had such parts available for many years. And even the tank of an M sled has popular additional bulkhead supports. I have jumped my Pro more than "at all," and haven't /bent broken anything in the footwell. I've jumped it enough to bend a couple sets of running board extrusions...although I bent the extrusions on my Doo a lot more with a lot less. I have also packed gas on the tunnel, stuff for over-nighters at cabins, and towed a couple sleds with the stock bumper and haven't broken or bent anything.
I do recognize than it's primary purpose is not towing or packing things...so maybe I'm reasonable enough to have avoided problems. Just like when I drive my truck offroad with a camper in it, I don't drive like I'm in the Baja 1000.
In my honest opinion....I don't believe the majority of people who have broken/bent structural components on the Pro would have been any better off WITH reinforcement kit(s). You can't have have hard hits to things that don't move and expect to get away with it. The Pro gets away with it better than the other 2, in that many times you can just replace an a-arm....there is nothing that adding "more weight" will easily fix, other than the tunnel sides. Look at how many people used to bend trailing arms....and those are solid chunks of square steel without a thought to light weight.
I don't get the comments on the Suzuki 800. I'm not impressed with them. They run well but I don't think they hold a candle to the eTec. The Polaris could use some additional ponies. My turbo fixed that but not everyone will go the turbo route. Reliability can never be perfect either. But Polaris needs to bridge the gap with the other sled manufacturers. One thing that makes each Polaris problem look bad is that there are far more Pro's out there right now than any other sled for the last four years. So if 1 in 10 sleds of any manufacture experienced problems, the company selling the most would have the most claims.
I'm looking forward to the Axys chassis for several smaller changes. I like the idea of the lightweight crank, resolving cooling issues (IMO, a big part of engine failures), the cool new display, better shock options and hopefully...some more power.
I'm looking forward to the Axys chassis for several smaller changes. I like the idea of the lightweight crank, resolving cooling issues (IMO, a big part of engine failures), the cool new display, better shock options and hopefully...some more power.
Polaris didn't pay me to do R&D for them In fact, I paid them over 10k to do it for them. But I ain't telling some $100,000/year+ engineer how to fix something simple.
I have spent nundreds of hours thinking, breaking things, re engineering, fabricating. They can figure it out on their own.
I'm not saying I'm smarter or better but come on, it's not that hard to figure out what will break. A quick 10 minute flat out rip on a 2 ft whooped out trail will break what needs to be improved upon.
That's how the military does it. They give a couple of 18-20 yr olds a piece of equipment and they tell them to go out and break it. Tanks, hummers, guns, whatever needs testing. The kids break it, military improves it, and then re test it. Then, after it proven, it goes to war.
Not saying poo needs to go to war, but all they need to is a bit of real world testing and probs would show up like a hot damn! Toss the computers and bean counters and get the sleds on the snow! Cat needs to do this too
Dismounting soapbox and taking meds now.
I have spent nundreds of hours thinking, breaking things, re engineering, fabricating. They can figure it out on their own.
I'm not saying I'm smarter or better but come on, it's not that hard to figure out what will break. A quick 10 minute flat out rip on a 2 ft whooped out trail will break what needs to be improved upon.
That's how the military does it. They give a couple of 18-20 yr olds a piece of equipment and they tell them to go out and break it. Tanks, hummers, guns, whatever needs testing. The kids break it, military improves it, and then re test it. Then, after it proven, it goes to war.
Not saying poo needs to go to war, but all they need to is a bit of real world testing and probs would show up like a hot damn! Toss the computers and bean counters and get the sleds on the snow! Cat needs to do this too
Dismounting soapbox and taking meds now.
The hands-on design and mfg engineers know. Just not their call, and they can do little but grin and beer it.
OEM sleds are made for the middle 75% of targeted use for the model. If you're on either side of the curve, you're gonna have more issues - you need to mod, or you bought the wrong sled. Just the way it is in a mass production world for every model T since Henry Ford. When defects are not resolved within a model year or two, they are not going to be addressed on the model.
OEM sleds are made for the middle 75% of targeted use for the model. If you're on either side of the curve, you're gonna have more issues - you need to mod, or you bought the wrong sled. Just the way it is in a mass production world for every model T since Henry Ford. When defects are not resolved within a model year or two, they are not going to be addressed on the model.
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seth25
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I think the Axys chassis will be released to the mountain segment in 2016. Similar to what they did on the Rush/Pro. Rush came out in 2010, followed by Pro in 2011. Give them a year on the snow to try and work out problems. Release the mountain Axys to us and let us do the rest of the R & D. Make small refinements to the sleds the following years.
The Rush was a pile when it came out , front ends where coming unglued and the bulk heads where breaking well past the first season on the snow. Racers protested but had no choice unless they wanted to loose their ride .That machine be best left to the trails . They have the Pro so now why don't they make a specific mountain sled and quit adding trail riding , ditch bashing hard wear .
I'm telling ya stab a set of forks threw the front end and you'll have the ultimate mountain machine . Eleven years of riding and you guys are starting to do what I've been doing . Man up , that ride is so far ahead off it's time that the sleds are finally starting to do what it does . While this happens I'll see you guys some place that you call side hilling
I'm telling ya stab a set of forks threw the front end and you'll have the ultimate mountain machine . Eleven years of riding and you guys are starting to do what I've been doing . Man up , that ride is so far ahead off it's time that the sleds are finally starting to do what it does . While this happens I'll see you guys some place that you call side hilling
I would consider a polaris but I am pretty tall and it seems that Arctic Cats are just built for a taller person. I like the pro but they seem to be built for a 5'5 to 5'8 guy. That and my past experiance with the 800 mortor leaves me a little unseattled but I would be willing to look past that if they could be a bit more adjustable for taller guys.
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