Can Polaris improve on the Pro?

[geo]

It's summer some days now. I use winter dreams to get to sleep sometimes lol.

I've been more than happy with my Pro. Improved the suspension, geared it for the mountains, added few ponies, trust the motor now and love the response, strengthened a few spots, even lost few lbs.
Last thing may be a CE (best all around track for a while now IMO).

What could those Poo engineers do to make the impact of the 2011 introduction?

I'll believe the AXYS motor after a season or two and a couple of side by side rides.
Is it possible to do another major (35- 40lbs) weight reduction and still have 2 ski's?

Am I stuck with this sled forever lol?

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

I hope so

I pretty much ran out of n/a stock bore mods for reasonable money.
Very happy with the all around performance of my sled.
Wouldnt trade it for anything on the market right now.

Oh and the CE 2.5 rocks

 

[rmscustom]

Smaller AXYS bulkhead and plastics and maybe a T3 approach to increased snow clearance would be a start. 35-40lb weight loss I doubt. Hopefully 18lbs is doable

399lb and a 160+hp in a chassis that works a little better than the Pro would keep the other 2 still catching up for 5 more years. lol

 

[OuraySledder]

They could definately improve on the engine. Suzuki 800 power and durability would be an awesome addition to the great chassis. Pretty much the rest of it I am in love with.

I suppose the fix kit/head/controller gets me close...

For now, this one gets the pistons for good measure and I ride it a couple more seasons. The Pro is so right for my riding, the only upgrade I forsee is replacing the '13 with a holdover '15 in a couple of years. They would have to do somehing really impressive to alter that plan, hopefully they do...

 

[Laundryboy]

I've got a 2014 Pro that I've taken 45 lbs. off of. I meticulously weighed each piece that was removed and each piece that I installed. It's definitely doable to remove a significant amount of weight but it's not cheap. I've spent more on weight reduction that what the sled cost.

 

[rmscustom]

I've got a 2014 Pro that I've taken 45 lbs. off of. I meticulously weighed each piece that was removed and each piece that I installed. It's definitely doable to remove a significant amount of weight but it's not cheap. I've spent more on weight reduction that what the sled cost.

I'd love to see a part by part break down of that build.

 

[TRS]

They will get the engine right.

For the Mountain Segment
Would like to see them ditch all the CF.
Make major suspension and steering parts of 4130.
Tunnel sides and top increased to .080" for a more rigid chassis.
.250" -.500" more tunnel/track clearance.
A compact/lightweight headlight unit.
Add air intake area to lower air intake velocity, better deep snow run-ability.
Oil tank integrated into the fuel tank.
TPS moved to the mag side.
All the electrical components moved to a panel, utilizing integrated connectors, between the fuel tank and air box to clean up the wiring. This is doable. It will also minimize heat and vibration, the death of electrical components.
Ditch the epoxy in the injector wire connections.

 

[icr]

No.

 

[Laundryboy]

Yeah, I sort of figured when I posted that, that I'd either have to put up or shut up. So without going into all of the details that are in my three pages of notes, as I've literally weighed and recorded each bolt along with its titanium replacement, I will somewhat summarize below.

*Everything that Dan makes in titanium for the Pro including front
and rear suspension, upper and lower steering arms, every nut bolt
that he carries for the pro such as primary and secondary clutch bolt, etc. saved: 16lbs

* Skinz seat saved 1.62lbs

* The titanium silencer 7.25lbs

* Carbon fiber side panels saved 4.35lbs

* Removal of rear tail light, wiring and aluminum wiring cover saved .76lbs

* Removal of exhaust clamshell and insulation saved 3.22 lbs

* Roll bar removal saved 2.22lbs

* Mesh hood saved 5.20lbs

* Carbon fiber gas tank saved 7.45lbs

That is just over 48lbs and I plan during this summer to take another few pounds off if I can get Dan to make some titanium skags and for Patrick Carbon to start selling his carbon fiber spindles again, he's put a temporary hold on selling them. My goal is to get to 52lbs off.

 

[rmk8000]

I hope the axys engine will be reliable. I will be ready for a new sled in 3 years and want to try a polaris but I still don't entirely trust polaris to build an 800 that lasts

 

[OuraySledder]

They will get the engine right.

That seems like an awfully high level of confidence since the engine has been a problem for almost TEN YEARS now. It has been a problem even longer if you factor in the Edge 800's that liked to eat PTO bearings.

I am riding one, I love the sled but, I see NO real effort to FIX the motor after ten years of serious motor issues. Granted, my Pro 800 has lasted twice as long as the typical Dragon motor. That is still crap compared to the competition.

I hope you are right but I do not see any evidence to support that claim.

 

[4Z]

I am with TRS. Like the oil/fuel tank idea!

The 68mm stroke was a great motor for reliability and decent power.

 

[NHRoadking]

That seems like an awfully high level of confidence since the engine has been a problem for almost TEN YEARS now. It has been a problem even longer if you factor in the Edge 800's that liked to eat PTO bearings.

I am riding one, I love the sled but, I see NO real effort to FIX the motor after ten years of serious motor issues. Granted, my Pro 800 has lasted twice as long as the typical Dragon motor. That is still crap compared to the competition.



I hope you are right but I do not see any evidence to support that claim.

Agreed. They need to make the engine more reliable. That would be the single best improvement they could make.

 

[geo]

I hope Poo is doing the big one (all the little changes mentioned above) at the same time they drop the AXYS motor on us. I also hope they tune that motor special for the mountain guys with elevation HP loss in mind. 872 is a nice # lol.

That said I feel the current set-up I have is on par with anything N/A out there for straight up power. I also feel it has an advantage over the rest for response. Don't miss 800 Suzuki power one bit and the extra fuel-thumb it needs.

The Poo mountain guys have a big hill to climb to get me to leave behind the last one they built. I learned some good lessons going through a couple of decades of one and done lol.

The snow don't change. Sometimes when a rider and a horse have been together for a long time getting up the side of a mountain is as easy as a trail ride.

 

[Hawkster]

NO , NO , NO are you a gluten for punishment geo ? leave that AXYS to the flat landers for a couple of years till proven , but as for improving a mountain sleds get rid of the ditch pounding , snow accumulating , anchor dragging hard packed corner carving A-arms .

Ask for something that makes common sense because making a mountain machine with barely having the capability of carrying extra fuel doesn't .

 

[Drifter]

More top end power! It just doesn't have enough for some of those long climbs when the snows deep. If I was 165 pounds it would be fine.

Easier less costly way to change gearing. Stock they are geared to high if you weigh over 200lbs.

Need to something about the snow that collects on the tunnel around the suspension drop bracket.

Integrate the oil tank into the fuel tank which would remove it from the clutch guard.

The Pro is a sweet sled. Get a smile on my face when ever I ride mine.

 

[Turbotater]

The 68mm stroke was a great motor for reliability and decent power.[/QUOTE]

And it held up good with big bores and custom cylinder big bores.
A local guy here has a 890 I built with the 68 stroke back in 98' that's still going.

 

[Solby]

I'm loving my pro the only things I see in this chassis that could be improved are an improved suspension for whooped out trails, a more reliable motor (I haven't had any trouble with mine), more powerful motor, slightly deeper lug track and 3" pitch, a shorter steeper sloped hood so it doesn't collect snow, and a rear bumper that doesn't instantly bend.

After that it I am looking forward to an Axys based sled with even more mountain refinement like a shorter nose, more ground clearance, narrower plastics, slightly more rider forward, a little more weight loss, and of course the new motor.

 

[Powderforlife907]

Why put the oil res. in the tank? I personally would like to see more Carbon Fiber but not the cheap stuff they made the bumper out of.

 

[kiliki]

an 800 motor like the zuki 10 up! and fix all the lite weight bs and bumpers so you can carry a 2 gal gas rack and not bed the bulkhead