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attak06

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i am wondering what cam corders you guys are using while snowmobiling. i have a tape style sony that decided to eat tapes when it gets cold. i want to go to a dvd recorder. what is working with decent picture quality for snowmobile footage. thanks
 
I went all out and went fully hd with the Sony HDR FX1. I have not had any problem with it all season, just dont try using an old dusty tape. It makes the video bieng recorded skip.IT all depends on what you are willing to spend. Retail on my camera from sony was $3699 but i got it on ebay for 2500 with a wide angle lens, telephoto lens, 3 light filters, tripod, heavy duty case, good luck.
 
I have a Sony HDR HC5, which is a 1080 HiDef Mini DV TAPE machine.
Wish I had traded it in, to get the HC7, which has the image stabilization.

I had a mini DVD unit, and it is a pain in the arse. Go with a unit that shoots to a card.

Not a hard drive, not DVD.... The other unit that I should have looked at was the Canon HV20. It also shoots to tape, but it is always rated #1. Its a hi Def, 1080 machine, with image stabilization, and a few other nifty features.

My reason for getting the Sony, was that it had a Firewire output, which is what is needed to edit onto a Macbook.

A bit of a pain for editing, cause you download the whole tape onto the mac, and then
edit away...

If I could do it all over, I would get the smallest Hi Def, shoot to a card 1080 machine I could find...no moving parts, and easiest to edit. I have been told that tape always has the best picture quality, but have never seen a video that was shot to a card.

BD
 
This is my 4th season on a Canon Z90 miniDV. It is very small sized, easy to use and has some image stabilization. I carry 2 batteries & 2 tapes and get about 90 minutes of video per day. I carry it in a leather Canon bag in my backpack, so moisture has not been a problem. It goes directly from backpack to playback on the TV after the ride. After viewing, I download onto the laptop(Firewire) and with a quick charge, it's ready for the next day.
 
I got the Sony Handycam that burns to Mini disk DVD, and i have found i need a damn tripod . I need to focus on watching the sled i am filming through the LCD . I look up and start filming the trees , then have to try to find the moving sled again .

I am new to this , i still cant figure out how to play the DVD on my computer . It says i need a DVD decoder that is compatable .:confused:

This camera was the top off the line right before the Hi-Def one . Nice Camera i am just a newbie . I am going to go to Best Buy and buy the decoder thing , i guess .

Can anyone suggest a good video editing program , what are you guys using to make movies with ? I am running Windows , i got alot of editing to do . I like to film the sky and the tree's alot .:beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;
 
Editing Software

I'm using Pinnacle Studio 11+. I had to move up due to Vista(thanks Microsoft:mad:) from Studio 9+. It is fairly easy to use once you do it a few times. If I did it more, I could edit in 1/2 the time.:D:beer;
 
Run away from the DVD cams. They are useless for editing. I would either get a mini DV or HDV cam depending on what the budget is. You get what you pay for ! In a consumer cam try the Canon HV10, 20 or 30. They seem to get good reviews.
 
I picked up an HV20 this year and it shoots great Hi Def vid. Not the best in low light though. The mini DV tape is a great way to go. Still the best quality, most editing options, and it's the best permanent backup media there is.
 
Run away from the DVD cams. They are useless for editing. I would either get a mini DV or HDV cam depending on what the budget is. You get what you pay for ! In a consumer cam try the Canon HV10, 20 or 30. They seem to get good reviews.


I bought mine 2 years ago , i would like to get that HD one it looks really cool . Cant i edit just the same once i get it into the Pinnacle Studio 11+ or what ever program ?

Or are you talking about editing while its still in the Camera ? I cant figure out how to do anything but record while its on the camera.
 
+1 for MiniDV. Much easier to work with than DVDR, but it is still tape and there is a seek time associated with it.
 
You can edit with whatever software you want with miniDV, it is the best way for editing with a consumer cam such as this. I think Premier Pro has a entry level editing NLE (editing software). You should check that out. The higher end you learn on the easier later on. JMO

This is what you can do with Mini DV

http://www.staticthrustfilms.com/my first dirtbike.html
 
I picked up an HV20 this year and it shoots great Hi Def vid. Not the best in low light though. The mini DV tape is a great way to go. Still the best quality, most editing options, and it's the best permanent backup media there is.

my story too. I have a buddy who shoots a lot of 4x4 videos he says they have better life from the sony's in the dust, but the canon image is the benchmark.....I am happy with it.
 
I'm part of a amateur video production company and we make local snowboard videos every winter. Mainly we use Panasonic GS series 3CDD MiniDV cams. I've shot in all sorts of weather, mainly PacNW 33 degree's and snowing and these cams hold up good. Battery life stays strong in my pack when it gets in the low 20's, and somehow the cams still work in heavy wet snow storms.

I also use a Canon GL1 when it's a sunny glory day, but I wouldn't recommend it just cause they are expensive and bulky. Best deal with the Panasonics is they are cheap (under $600 for most models), use MiniDV (cheap and you never run out of storage if you got tapes), 1394 for transfer/edit (fast), and the 3CCD will give you a nice clear picture when shooting action in low light. Watch out for single CCD cams, your picture will be mush the soon as you whip the cam out in a storm and try to catch a sled at 30mph.

Whatever you do, MiniDV, 3CCD, or HD are your friends. Don't let some slick salesman trick you into something that will be useless once the temp drops below 25 or that can withstand 3hrs of bouncing around in your pack.
 
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