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Buck-up or bow out?

I have been riding with the same core group of guys for almost 30 years. In 2006 things started to change when one of the guys put a turbo on an Apex. In 2007 three more guys followed. Last year two more, and as of right now I am the only one who has not gone to a turbo. For about the 10th time this season we spent too many valuable hours trying to get me up hills and over mountains so that we can ride untracked snow in new areas we could not get to before.

These guys won’t leave me behind, and they act like it doesn’t matter when we change plans and ride where I can get, but I know I’m holding them back. I had convinced myself to put a race gas BD kit on my 09 M8, but we rode with a guy Friday who had one that I think was working pretty good, and he could not make the pull either. I am certainly not going to spend six grand and still be holding them back.

From my cheap seat it appears that I have three options. Keep holding them back. Buck-up and build or buy a Yamaha, or bow out and find new riding buddies. I have already decided I’m not going with option one, so that leaves options two and three.

Is anyone else dealing with this problem? I wish I could say riding Yamaha’s was holding them back in the boondocking department, but I can honestly say after riding these sleds for a year if these guys are giving anything up its not much. I could hand it to them pretty good the first three months or so but once they get the strength built up to throw them around and hang on to the bars when the boost comes on, they’re right back in the game.

Am I letting pride get in the way of friendships? It’s not a money thing. If I really want to ride a Yamaha I can figure out a way to get it done.
 
Are you sure the m8 turbo was working right? Unless your making a movie, the tm8 pretty much goes anywhere you point it.
 
do you have to ride a yamaha?
do other sleds make it where they go? maybe you can find a different sled that will do you good....then again maybe you need a turbo
 
Eh; if their style of riding is what you want to do, and the thing holding you back is the sled, go for it.

If you'd rather be boondocking rather than climbing, stick with teh sled you have and ride with a different crew. Not hard to find them on here.

Riding with a different group of people every now and then is a good thing for you too, gets you experience your usual group may not be able to provide, or hit new spots you didn't know about.
 
Go buy the m8 turbo i know for a fact it will take you where they go even a good pump gas (Chris Burandt special), the only thing is you will be having more fun and imo you will have a better sled too the yami's weigh so much more. A stock one costs just as much as buying a m8 and putting a turbo on it just about.
 
I think you need some more time with a TM7 or TM8.. The good running ones I have seen will go anywhere a turbo yami will go unless you are making a movie like the other guy said.;)

A turbo yami is not the only answer to get into the big stuff in the backcountry.Try to find some other turbo M sleds or dragons to try out and I think you will see.
 
You could get one of those SHR860 doo's, but then im sure the yammi guys couldnt follow you!
 
Turbo M8 is the answer to the question. Yammis for point and shoot. M8t for the other 95% of the time.

Sounds like you got a good group of guys to ride with. You know yourself well enough to know how much you will regret not doing it. Lifes short, do it
 
nothing will replace riding with your good buds...and they sound like true friends acommadating you...keep it alive ...!!!...
 
Get the M8 turbo and if you dont think it will have enough power, buy a 08 M1000 put a turbo and it and kick the $hit out of em. I ride with a guy who is the best rider i have ever seen and im pretty sure i might hold him back but im only 14 and i am riding my *** off to keep up with him. But just make sure you get to ride with your friends. I enjoy riding with my friended on a modded out M1000 because it pushes me to be a better rider. If you can come close to making it where your friends go on turboed sleds you should be able to come at least close to out riding them because it takes more effort on your part then theres. Just my .02
 
I built a Nytro last year and loved it and still do,but this year I put a BD pump gas on a 09 D8 and like it a little more.I've had the yammi out 2times this year and have 1900+ miles on the D8(planing on doing pistons this week or next just for preventative maint)and have had no problems with it,pull rope and go.The clutching and maping was a little tougher than a stocker but not bad.I like the yammi in the make it or break it climbs where every HP counts but for just goin rideing I like the D8 ride a little better,in fact I'm going to do another dragon for next year.The M8 s I've seen do just as good but I think the guys change something in the Diamond Drive,not sure though Good luck and we'll see ya at the top on her
 
don't get the sled for them... they like riding with you obviously and will anyways but get it for yourself... seriously
if you can figure out a way to do it then theres nothing holding you back. just do it
 
I'm not a Cat guy, but if the TM8 couldn't get where it was needed to go, something wasn't working right. A TM8 on 10 pounds of boost should be pulling around 200hp. That would be more than enough, keep in mind that the M8 is MANY pounds lighter than any Yammie, turbo or not.
 
Ditto on the turbo for your M8. I can't believe that even a pump gas turbo on that thing won't keep up with the Yammi's. Maybe it is rider ability? ;)
 
Just Wondering ???

How many of you that say the t M8 ...a great sled...have rode, and I mean spent some time on a Yamahahaha . The Yamahas ride light for as heavy as they are, soak up the big bumps, I for one have never rode a T M8 , so I cant say how they run. I have rode a T RX1 a little and watched this sled perform. Its not for me :o not enough kahoenees :o My point is the Yamahas ride as well as a D8 or AC IMHO . They all weigh a boat load when stuck up to your neck in powder ;) ...Just wondering. Very good point made above about "get the sled thats right for you"...Dino
 
Who has more fun? The more power that you get the bigger the obstacles that you have to find to challenge the sled. I came off of a 200hp BB and now have a lightweight 170hp sled. I have way more fun on that. Granted, I am not ridding with guys w/ turbos so being as competitive as I am that would probably change my oppinion.
 
How many of you that say the t M8 ...a great sled...have rode, and I mean spent some time on a Yamahahaha . The Yamahas ride light for as heavy as they are, soak up the big bumps, I for one have never rode a T M8 , so I cant say how they run. I have rode a T RX1 a little and watched this sled perform. Its not for me :o not enough kahoenees :o My point is the Yamahas ride as well as a D8 or AC IMHO . They all weigh a boat load when stuck up to your neck in powder ;) ...Just wondering. Very good point made above about "get the sled thats right for you"...Dino

My point was that he already OWNS a M8. From what I have seen and heard about the turbo M8 he shouldn't have any troubles riding with his buddies. Also, he is already comfortable on that sled. :)
 
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