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Best mountain goggle? no-fog??

Just a quick look at the difference.

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. So I emailed 509 yesterday, they informed me that the only way the posts work is if you set the fan off center. As for the advertised "redesign" it meant they replaced the arched bridge with a flat bridge to allow the fan to breath (space between goggle and helmet brow). A minimal change at best!

I just tried to reposition my 509's and guess what, that didn't work. it really only fits in the middle. Can someone post up their aviators with them repositioned
as per the suggestion in Nuggetau's email?
 
GOGGLE POSITION!

THE WAY YOU WEAR YOUR GOGGLES IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT BRAND OR HOW MUCH YOU PAID.

IF YOU DONT HAVE YOUR GOGGLE'S FOAM TIGHT TO YOUR FACE YOU ARE GOING TO FOG!
 
Does Habervison make helmet specific goggles?

Our MTX/Faro is designed to be more helmet friendly. But I have not had ANY problems getting our Prima, Highline or Riva to fit a helmet. The Ouzo (over the Glasses) has some fitment issues on very small helmets because it is a wider goggle.

The Faro has the following features:
-Rubberized Strap
-Thicker foam
-Straps that exit off the front of the goggle

The front exit on the straps will help out a bunch, but our regular (all other models) goggles have a hinge on the straps so they have plenty of play to fit a helmet properly.

I think this is a great looking goggle

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As for the Eliminator/fan. It really doesn't matter if it is centered or not. It does not block vision, so having it to the side doesn't really hurt anything.
 
I haven't found polarization to be a benefit in flat light, very helpful on bright days though. Maybe just my eyes?

Does everyone's eyes acclimate to the colored lenses, by that I mean, I put on the yellow goggles and for the first few minutes everything is bright and yellow, within a few minutes it appears to be a light brown and the perceived brightness is gone. Does that happen to everyone, or an idiosyncrasy of mine?

I have had great success with the plain orange lense in my 509 Sinisters. Not the chrome orange, just the plain orange. The chrome messes with low light visibility.
 
I have always had good luck with pro grip no fog lenses. They do wear out. about 2 seasons and its time to change.
 
I have three pair of scott's (87's I think?) I know they range from 5-10 years old. never have a problem with fogging.

The key is how they fit your helmet and what you use to deflect your breath away from them. You have to have a good seal around the bridge of your nose and your cheeks. It also needs to direct your breath out the bottom.

Get that right and it doesnt matter what goggles you use. Eric

Ok, this IS the key, I have had the same goggles, helmet and breath box since 2003. My goggles have never fogged, I'm dreading the day I have to buy new equipment.
 
Ok, this IS the key, I have had the same goggles, helmet and breath box since 2003. My goggles have never fogged, I'm dreading the day I have to buy new equipment.

Obviously (from this thread) not everyone else is that lucky. Some people sled harder, some sweat more and some (like me) don't breath well through their nose. It's easy to say that you need a google that fits your face and helmet and has good optics, but it's another thing to actually find that.
 
I think you nailed it !!

My helmet is well vented, o'neal 3-series ( same exact helmet as the 509 ), I ride hard, I'm never cold and do sweat after a bit of hard riding. I can't breath out of my nose very well and a breathbox just makes me hotter. I tryed on my Scott XI's last night and noticed that the extra cheek foam makes them sit loose around my nose, my old 89x dirtbike goggles fit the face better so I ordered a vented antifog lens for those. That was 15.00 if that fails then I'm on to the haber's later in the year.

I have also invested in Klims agressor moisture wicking base layer and the summit tech long sleeve to try to keep the humidity level down inside the riding gear and maybe help to regulate heat better. Most of my old base layer was cotton or cotton / poly blend and did not dry quickly at all.
 
I think you nailed it !!

My helmet is well vented, o'neal 3-series ( same exact helmet as the 509 ), I ride hard, I'm never cold and do sweat after a bit of hard riding. I can't breath out of my nose very well and a breathbox just makes me hotter. I tryed on my Scott XI's last night and noticed that the extra cheek foam makes them sit loose around my nose, my old 89x dirtbike goggles fit the face better so I ordered a vented antifog lens for those. That was 15.00 if that fails then I'm on to the haber's later in the year.

I have also invested in Klims agressor moisture wicking base layer and the summit tech long sleeve to try to keep the humidity level down inside the riding gear and maybe help to regulate heat better. Most of my old base layer was cotton or cotton / poly blend and did not dry quickly at all.

I have a 509 helmet and I found that the top of the helmet was pushing down on the goggles. This made it hard to breath out of my nose. So, I went away from the 509 goggle (that combo didn't work) and put in Haber goggles with the eliminator. That seems to work much better. Strange that I can use my 509 helmet with other goggles or my 509 goggles with another helmet but not together.
 
Obviously (from this thread) not everyone else is that lucky. Some people sled harder, some sweat more and some (like me) don't breath well through their nose. It's easy to say that you need a google that fits your face and helmet and has good optics, but it's another thing to actually find that.

I hear ya. I have been fighting cancer, last winter I was on hormone therapy so I was having hot flashes a half dozen times per ride, sweat would be running down my face, my goggles still didn't fog.
 
I tried many goggles over the past 10 years and Oakleys are the only ones that work for my narrow face. I dont think anyone can just buy a goggle and think it will work, You have to get one that conforms to your face size. Smiths and 509's never worked for me, But my Oakley crowbar's work wonderfully, sledding or skiing.
 
The main thing you see is that no two heads/faces are shaped a like and therefore, no single goggle will work for every single person.


True....which is why models designed to work with helmets will generally have thicker foam for a better goggle to face fit.
 
I ride with Oakley crowbars and they work pretty good. They do fog/ice up on a good cold day when your hittin it hard. I bought a pair of polarized Zeal Optics goggles for this year - anyone ever use these? I didn't notice them mentioned above
 
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