Best mountain goggle? no-fog??

[Raff_9001M]

In additiona to ALL of the different options above....something to take a look at is how much venting does your helmet have. Heeping your head cooler while riding makes a huge difference in how much you sweat...if you sweat less, your goggles are less likely to have fogging issues.

This is one of the reasons we switched to Downhill Mountain Bike Racing helmets (sixsixone and Giro are the 2 main brands).

Excellent helmets designed to protect from high speed downhill impact with trees (sound familiar)...and a bonus, they weigh about 2/3 what a MX style helmet weighs...and cost about 1/2 what the "name brand" MX style helmets cost.

good luck

What he said. Started fogging one day while riding in wet snow conditions. Took the balaclava off and stopped sweating and did not fog the rest of the day. I use Smith Sweat-X.

 

[LT]

i too am also a big smith fan. i have had the snow piston googles for 4 yrs now with not a single complaint! its weird tho cuz i cant find them on the smith website...must have stopped making them??

these guys stil have some for sale....

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co...80003&zmam=88421133&zmas=1&zmac=45&zmap=24491

 

[racert17]

i use spy and never had a problem with fogging, i have $175 oakleys and the spy's are way better.

 

[tahoermk]

I ride with Smith Prodigy goggles, and never have fog issues, I use their no fog cloth a couple times a year, and they perform without fail. The biggest cause of fog is face fit, and moisture being forced into the goggles through vents and gaps.

 

[Gibsons]

I use scotts, smiths, spy and 509's. the xi's worked best for me.

 

[milehighassassin]

In additiona to ALL of the different options above....something to take a look at is how much venting does your helmet have. Heeping your head cooler while riding makes a huge difference in how much you sweat...if you sweat less, your goggles are less likely to have fogging issues.

This is one of the reasons we switched to Downhill Mountain Bike Racing helmets (sixsixone and Giro are the 2 main brands).

Excellent helmets designed to protect from high speed downhill impact with trees (sound familiar)...and a bonus, they weigh about 2/3 what a MX style helmet weighs...and cost about 1/2 what the "name brand" MX style helmets cost.

good luck

I agree with some of this but disagree BIG TIME with the downhill bike racing helmets suggestion. Sure they protect from impact, but they are not designed to withstand the weight of a snowmobile. Say you roll a sled and the sled runs over the top of you. There are tons of lightweight helmets with great venting available that are designed for powersports.

Something else to consider if you have fogging problems is to consider the amount of clothing you are wearing. My rule of thumb is that when I leave the truck/trailer I like to be cold. If you are not cold, when you get to the riding area and actually start working, playing having fun you are going to be sweating up a storm.

Everyone will be different but I am getting to the point where I am only wearing a t-shirt or maybe a long sleave shirt (I love moreno wool, for it's sweat wicking ability) and then my Klim jacket. Of course I usually have another layer in my pack if I get colder.

 

[SRXSRULE]

I have three pair of scott's (87's I think?) I know they range from 5-10 years old. never have a problem with fogging.

The key is how they fit your helmet and what you use to deflect your breath away from them. You have to have a good seal around the bridge of your nose and your cheeks. It also needs to direct your breath out the bottom.

Get that right and it doesnt matter what goggles you use. Eric

 

[AndrettiDog]

I use the Haber Eliminator now. I though it was a gimmick but now I dig it. I used to take the Eliminator out and put it in my 509's or Smith's. But I use the Haber polarized googles. I was surprised how well they work in the flat light and rock in the sunshine. The pic below was last week and the light was flat.

 

[Mn Mtn Man]

options

Pro-vue makes one with a fan too. Especially if you want/need a goggle with a prescription lens as they are the original/masters of the presecription lens goggles.

 

[Powderhound]

I have three pairs of the the scott turboflo Xi. LOVE THEM !!!!! Learn to breathe down. when you stop to wait for your buddies. They are great goggles and they dont fog.... Sounds like you are overheating all over and no goggle will help.

 

[BossRev]

Rode Yesterday with my new Haber Visions. I think they are the primas and polarized with the Fan. Clarity of the lens in AMAZING!
I could see every definition in and of the snow on a rather flat light day. Fan works really well. No issues all day.
The buzzing of the fan is going to take some time getting use to, I keep think my sled was making the noise.
I don't like the way they fit with my HJC Carbon helmet.......

So I am going to buy a new helmet.

 

[winter brew]

Haber fog eliminator!! I just ordered a second set of their gogs with the fan, still less money than most of the fancy gogs and works MUCH better IMO. Unless you get snow/water inside your lens, I doubt you will ever fog.

 

[nuggetau]

Rode Yesterday with my new Haber Visions. I think they are the primas and polarized with the Fan. Clarity of the lens in AMAZING!
I could see every definition in and of the snow on a rather flat light day. Fan works really well. No issues all day.
The buzzing of the fan is going to take some time getting use to, I keep think my sled was making the noise.
I don't like the way they fit with my HJC Carbon helmet.......

So I am going to buy a new helmet.

I just bought 509 Aviators and installed the 509 fan. Can't say I like the way the aviators fit in my HJC helmet. I second the angry bee sound, it was a really wet/humid day with wet snow (which is always the worst riding situation for visibility/fogging), you don't hear the fan over the motor, but the first time I shut the sled off I was looking all over the sled for the noise. Then it dawned on me, doh, it's the fan.

Even though the fit in the helmet isn't great I didn't fog under the worst conditions. I was hoping for more from the lenses though. I am desperate to find something that amplifies/clarifies flat light situations. Have tries blue lenses, pink/rose, and yellow, can't say I saw any dramatic improvement from any of them. ANYONE FOUND THE SOLUTION FOR FLAT LIGHT?? I would be willing to pay up the wazoo for this solution.

 

[tudizzle]

I just bought 509 Aviators and installed the 509 fan. Can't say I like the way the aviators fit in my HJC helmet. I second the angry bee sound, it was a really wet/humid day with wet snow (which is always the worst riding situation for visibility/fogging), you don't hear the fan over the motor, but the first time I shut the sled off I was looking all over the sled for the noise. Then it dawned on me, doh, it's the fan.

Even though the fit in the helmet isn't great I didn't fog under the worst conditions. I was hoping for more from the lenses though. I am desperate to find something that amplifies/clarifies flat light situations. Have tries blue lenses, pink/rose, and yellow, can't say I saw any dramatic improvement from any of them. ANYONE FOUND THE SOLUTION FOR FLAT LIGHT?? I would be willing to pay up the wazoo for this solution.

POLARIZED....unfortunately not avialable in the aviators....yet

 

[nuggetau]

POLARIZED....unfortunately not avialable in the aviators....yet

I haven't found polarization to be a benefit in flat light, very helpful on bright days though. Maybe just my eyes?

Does everyone's eyes acclimate to the colored lenses, by that I mean, I put on the yellow goggles and for the first few minutes everything is bright and yellow, within a few minutes it appears to be a light brown and the perceived brightness is gone. Does that happen to everyone, or an idiosyncrasy of mine?

 

[milehighassassin]

I haven't found polarization to be a benefit in flat light, very helpful on bright days though. Maybe just my eyes?

Does everyone's eyes acclimate to the colored lenses, by that I mean, I put on the yellow goggles and for the first few minutes everything is bright and yellow, within a few minutes it appears to be a light brown and the perceived brightness is gone. Does that happen to everyone, or an idiosyncrasy of mine?

Correct, Polarization is not going to help much if any at all in flat light. Polarization helps to remove indirect light from entering the eye (GLARE). When you are fighting for light, glare will not be a problem.

If you want the best low light/flat light lenses, get something without a flash (mirror coating). Light enhancing colors work best, oranges, yellow, rose.

Pro-vue makes one with a fan too. Especially if you want/need a goggle with a prescription lens as they are the original/masters of the presecription lens goggles.

Pro-Vue make a great script Goggle, but they are expensive and you are limited to one lenses. If you scratch that lenses you are out all of your money.

Because of those reason's, HaberVision came out with the Optical Insert.



$25 and you get your Rx put in at your optometrist or if you contact me we have some GREAT pricing which will allow us to fill your Rx for you and have it shipping in about 7-10 days.

 

[tudizzle]

I haven't found polarization to be a benefit in flat light, very helpful on bright days though. Maybe just my eyes?

Does everyone's eyes acclimate to the colored lenses, by that I mean, I put on the yellow goggles and for the first few minutes everything is bright and yellow, within a few minutes it appears to be a light brown and the perceived brightness is gone. Does that happen to everyone, or an idiosyncrasy of mine?

I was thinking of more of the changing light situation....from flat to light coming in an out of trees. Guess my eyes are able to make the adjustments better with polarized...maybe because the brighter sections are less dramatic?


Does Habervison make helmet specific goggles?

 

[BossRev]

I just bought 509 Aviators and installed the 509 fan. Can't say I like the way the aviators fit in my HJC helmet. I second the angry bee sound, it was a really wet/humid day with wet snow (which is always the worst riding situation for visibility/fogging), you don't hear the fan over the motor, but the first time I shut the sled off I was looking all over the sled for the noise. Then it dawned on me, doh, it's the fan.

Even though the fit in the helmet isn't great I didn't fog under the worst conditions. I was hoping for more from the lenses though. I am desperate to find something that amplifies/clarifies flat light situations. Have tries blue lenses, pink/rose, and yellow, can't say I saw any dramatic improvement from any of them. ANYONE FOUND THE SOLUTION FOR FLAT LIGHT?? I would be willing to pay up the wazoo for this solution.

I also have a pair of Aviators. Wore them last year and loved them. I felt they fit great with my HJC carbon helmet. AWESOME is all I can say about the Aviators. I like the yellow lens for any flat light or night riding. they really seem to work well for me. I just purchased the 509 eliminator and was unhappy with the way the fan fit into the Aviators. It is not a clean fit, the eliminators has a U shaped top bracket and the top of the aviators has a triangular 509 logo..( maybe I got the wrong ones, maybe the sinister and aviators use a different fan)

I've never had an issue with my Aviators and not sure why I felt the need to purchase the fan as I never had any issues fogging(i guess I was looking for extra insurance).

For the first time ever last wednesday my Aviators fogged up with the Fan installed. Not sure why but it was clearly getting moister on the inside of the Lens. Never had an issue before the fan was installed. I guess you can't improve perfection.

 

[nuggetau]

I also have a pair of Aviators. Wore them last year and loved them. I felt they fit great with my HJC carbon helmet. AWESOME is all I can say about the Aviators. I like the yellow lens for any flat light or night riding. they really seem to work well for me. I just purchased the 509 eliminator and was unhappy with the way the fan fit into the Aviators. It is not a clean fit, the eliminators has a U shaped top bracket and the top of the aviators has a triangular 509 logo..( maybe I got the wrong ones, maybe the sinister and aviators use a different fan)

I've never had an issue with my Aviators and not sure why I felt the need to purchase the fan as I never had any issues fogging(i guess I was looking for extra insurance).

For the first time ever last wednesday my Aviators fogged up with the Fan installed. Not sure why but it was clearly getting moister on the inside of the Lens. Never had an issue before the fan was installed. I guess you can't improve perfection.

I'm thinking the model of helmet and size probably is the variable, plus face shape.


As for the 509 fan, after getting mine I was not impressed with the airflow and that you can't center the fan in the middle of the aviator google due to the position of the fan posts and the webbing in the top of the goggle. I was under the impression that the 509 was specifically adapted/redesigned from the haber design to work with the 509 goggles. So I emailed 509 yesterday, they informed me that the only way the posts work is if you set the fan off center. As for the advertised "redesign" it meant they replaced the arched bridge with a flat bridge to allow the fan to breath (space between goggle and helmet brow). A minimal change at best!

 

[tudizzle]

I'm thinking the model of helmet and size probably is the variable, plus face shape.

He does have a huge head...but only slightly mis-shapened?