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ATTENTION LA PINES, BEND OREGON SNOWMOBILERS

if it was not for deadbeats like you i could have paid MY BILLS. LIKE THE SLED I SOLD.
YOU SCREWED ME OUT OF THE FIRST INDY DAN CRANK SETUP I SOLD.
You've been so busy you haven't been able to write a check to a guy whose sled you sold months ago? :face-icon-small-con

Oh, and you know whats not fun? Getting screwed out of $1500bucks.:face-icon-small-fro Funny how you didn't respond to that one huh.
 
this was an ex girl friend that used me to no end and tried go get her sled with out paying the bill.
she is a liar and a user.

Man that sucks. As a fellow small business owner, I have no idea how one could do that to their customers, not have a guilty conscience every morning, and go to work and continue more of the same. Poor...poor...poor.

Best of luck with the trial.
 
sold a rolling chassis not a sled

tell the truth joey you could not pay your bill for me tearing down your sled and you had me sell it as a rolling chassis.
invoice number 1311 you will get this from my lawyer.
and remember the 11 times you called me before i was open and threatened me this is why it is in court.



I know of the exact shop you are talking about...he sold our snowmobile for us for $1,500 on January 2, 2011. He told us PayPal would take 3-4 business day to clear, this sounds logical. Then three-four days go by, no money, but another story, and another, and another...

Then he is just way too busy to write us a check, can't possible meet for a few days. The few days go by, so I call him again. I then get the response "talk to my attorney". I called his attorney several times with no response.

I then tried to contact the shop again, this is when he informed me that "if you call me again, I will call the police and get a restraining order against you, and if you come to his place of business (16585 Sly Drive, Lapine, OR) I will have you arrested and thrown in jail". He still has many of my parts and refuses to return them.

I called the police, as I described my situation, they named GRS, before I could even tell them. Pretty sad! It appears that he has formed a business around taking advantage of people and the law. I have know this person for around eight years and have passed thousands of dollars through his shop and cannot believe that I am being treated like this.

He has promised to pay us on multiple dates, but we still have not received a penny or a payment plan, just lies and threats.

I placed a post on Craigslist and found many other victims and heard many similar stories. So, be very wary of bringing any property or having any service from GRS Snowmobile and ATV Repair = Gordan R. Shields. Yes, I will state his name, this is not hear say, I have email proof of everything I am stating!

Joey Shaw
Another Victim
 
your motor parts were junk

broken case and crank Cly and head all just scrap.
had others that were from ebey to get done
GRS still has not paid us for our snowmobile he SOLD on 1/2/11!! Since then he has been trying to sell my motor parts. These are stolen property.

Check out this thread on another forum, he is ripping off people by the dozens!

http://www.sledspace.com/showthread.php?2465-GRS-Snowmobile-Repair-from-Central-Oregon

anyone else with a bad experience, please contact Deschutes County Sheriff's office, Chris_Jones@co.deschutes.or.us
 
only made one move

the last shop as at tweed rd for 8 years and this shop is listed in the phone book as 16528 sly drive La pine or
only one move in the last 10 years.
FYI - This is hear say.

Ladies and gentalman Of the LA Pines, Bend Oregon Area I want to bring to your attention that I have reason to believe that there is a Guy from La Pines, Bend Oregon Area that is using my Company Name Indy Specialty of Minnesota and has been telling people he is somehow connected to me, I have done a few things for this shop, 2 jobs total to be exact. 2 partial crankcases. What I am hearing might be true..... I do not want to list the shops name but I will say this- _ _ _ Snowmobile repair, I have heard that Local law enforcement has made claims to this guy being a professional shister !! This guy seems to know the law enough to use it against his customers. He has changed shops 2 or 3 times in the last year.


I didn't want to beleive any of this but my last transaction with this person was based on trust and lets just say there is evidence that what people are saying seems to be true.

He talks big talk like he is sending all this work.... Then 1 thing shows up like a case and he wants the lock ring cut into like the Torque Masters that I build but he has someone else do the cranks and he asks me for used Polaris PTO -ends for his crank guy to use on cranks claimed to be from Indy Specialty.

This is what I have heard.

If I am incorrect hopefully this shop owner will come on this thread and clear things up.

Anyone else know of this shop ??

Thank you, Dan
 
Stop Lying, Face The Truth!!

Gordon, aka Clutch Man aka GRS Snowmobile & ATV Repair!

We never EVER said we could not pay you to tear down the motor to my sled. The fact is you said you would sell it for us. You did sell it for us and keep the remaining motor parts AND SPENT OUR MONEY!! You have told us one lie after another! You haven't filed **** in small claims!! You said you were going to send us a $300 payment and never did (6 weeks ago!), you said you were going to have your attorney write an agreement for us, we called them three weeks later and they said they've never talked to you about any such thing. Everything out of your mouth is a lie. Anything you write is such crap, no one would ever believe you!!

It is AGAINST OREGON STATE LAW to sell a DMV registered vehicle for someone and not pay within 10 days. It has been over 90 days. You have my money, you have a ton of my time and you have my motor parts. I do not believe you that everything is broken or junk. You have not told us one truthful statement during this entire episode. If anyone reads this and reads your statements they will see through your crap!!

You have never sent us an invoice, you have never spoken to a judge about us. Judges have better things to do than sit in an empty courtroom waiting for scam artists like yourself to ask questions.

Here's one lie you stated in an email on 2/7/11 -

"Joey
You and Becky will today have papers served on you for harassment and a restraining order.
if you call or show up at my place of business you will got to jail.
Have a nice day"

A restraining order can only be placed on someone that was a domestic living partner. dumb *** And, we are allowed to call to find out where in the hell our money is!!

Here's the email stating you were going to send us a payment sent 1/29/11:
joey
there will be $300.00 sent to you in the morning.
my customer that would have given me the money to pay that much did not show until 7 PM so i will get a money order in the morning and send it to your address.
I will make payments to you to get this paid.
please just stop with the liar part and work with me so i don't have to get a restraining order on you.

ANOTHER LIE. Bring it on Gordon, I can counter anything you try to state. I have documentation of every lie you have told us.
 
broken case and crank Cly and head all just scrap.
had others that were from ebey to get done
What does this have to do with the price of tea in china!? You still haven't paid us for selling the sled, bottom line. What about my SLP Pipe & Can, Head, recoil, stater?, clutch - all are mine and not yours!
 
this was an ex girl friend that used me to no end and tried go get her sled with out paying the bill.
she is a liar and a user.
No wonder none of us can get anywhere! Gordon makes no sense! Have you slept lately? I sure as hell am not your ex-girlfriend? And if the "ex" is the person I think it is. You screwed her worse than you've screwed me.

Can you all imagine a grown man who won't answer the phone and deal with his problems? His first reaction is to get a restraining order, which isn't even possible?

Child.
 
You've been so busy you haven't been able to write a check to a guy whose sled you sold months ago? :face-icon-small-con

Oh, and you know whats not fun? Getting screwed out of $1500bucks.:face-icon-small-fro Funny how you didn't respond to that one huh.

Yep, he keeps telling us how busy he is, too busy to get together to write a check! WTF You can read his posts and see what we are dealing with.
 
I hear that.

No wonder none of us can get anywhere! Gordon makes no sense! Have you slept lately? I sure as hell am not your ex-girlfriend? And if the "ex" is the person I think it is. You screwed her worse than you've screwed me.


I have to laugh this is so stupid Gordon doesn't even know who he has dated ..... how in the world can he tell if she screwed him or not..

Trust me it was bad. lol wasn't worth the effort.
 
if it was not for deadbeats like you i could have paid MY BILLS. LIKE THE SLED I SOLD.
YOU SCREWED ME OUT OF THE FIRST INDY DAN CRANK SETUP I SOLD.

what the hell? I don't even know you?!? I never bought anything from you or talked to you before. I live in South Dakota!

The fact you baselessly accused me of doing sh!t like this just proves to everyone reading this your a sleazy scum bag. I hope this crap catches up to you soon
 
The dirt bag flag came up when I saw the words lawyer. I have been in business a lot of years, and never once had to get a lawyer involved. The day may come someday, but it sounds like for Gordon his lawyer is on speed dial. That is a pretty big red flag to me.
 
Enough !!!

Ok I have sat back and tried to take the high road. Lets get some things straight.

Gordon aka Clutchman aka GRS Snowmobile Repair, has basically how I see it STOLE my sled. Out right STOLE IT.

I left my sled, my daughters sled and my trailer with Gordon in June . He was to post season my sled, fix a fuel stutter it was having. for the second time. I PAID him $365. to fix it earlier in the season. Still have the problem. I took my sled to another shop paid $285 to have the same problem fixed. The other shop found that my fuel filter was nasty "old never had been touched, worn belt, put new needles in there was a whole list of things that Gordon should of done but didn't do in order to find the problem of my sled cutting out.

I used Gordon by letting his daughter borrow my sled so she could ride while home on leave. I did not expect anything from either of them for this.

Come June I was still having the fuel problem. As a FREIND of Gordon's I left my two sleds and trailer with him, so he could test it and fix it during the summer when it is his slow time.
He has had nine months to fix my sled. I was to pay him for parts since he was goingto use my trailer to move to LaPine. He used my trailer for aprox. 77 days if he had rented a trailer at U-Haul it would of cost him $2306.15 that could buy a lot of shop labor. I paid him with a $100 check for a new fuel pump and fuel line. I did not come down in yesterday's rain storm, a rebuild kit would of been around $12.95 and a few dollars for the fuel line. What was the rest for... HUmmmm I wonder?????

While he was using my trailer to move he cut the wires on it, put a hole in the side of it, I just had the trailer completley rewired the summer 2010.

He also had his helper take my daughters sled out of the tailer so he could use it, guess what he broke her hood and hood hinge. Suddenly her sled doesn't stop, funny we didn't have this problem when the sled went in to the trailer, so now he has to work on the clutch. I gave him because I trusted him as a friend my bank card and pin number. He charged me only $35.00 for some bolts and a bushing arm thingy, he never was clear what he was fixing. Now her sled won't start.

At the end of January I asked him if my sleds could be fixed by the first week of March as I was going on a three day ride with a group that I go with every first weekend of March and have made this trip for years.. Sure
no problem, by the middle to end to Feb we set a date for me to pick up my sleds on the first of March. Come time to get my sleds they are not ready surprise surprise...... So he told me that he would deliver them to me at the snow park that I was going to on Friday March 4th at noon.
I got to the snow park no Gordon. My daughter and I sat in the parking lot to 7 hours waiting for th esleds, and listeningto his lies as to why he wasn't there with them. The lodge that we were staying at was a snowmobile/ ski into lodge. We managed to catch a ride to the lodge with the Cat. I left him a check inmy gas cap to reimburst him for the 45 galloms of gas he was to buy for my sleds for the weekend. He came at midnight took the check, cashed it, yes he did get gas for my sleds, plus gas for his truck. he never let me know that this was his plan. The gas should of been $172. but the check was made out for $213. If he had told me that he needed gas I would of had no problem with that . but just go and do that with out notice is wrong. By the way he didn't bring my sleds he just came 180 miles round trip aprx. just to grab the check. Saturday morning comes no sleds..... on the phone texting back and forth all day one reason after another why the sleds weren't there. Finally he is going to bring them to me...... yes he did at 11:00 p.m. no call or text to say the sleds where in the parking lot. I was so pissed I walked more than 3 miles to the snow park that night to see if the sleds where there yet. Yes they where there.... I opened the trailer door and my daughters sled was there but mine wasn't. in it's place was a broken down piece of junk, hood is duct taped together, and tied on with a rope no windshield, and expired plate 1999. EXcuse me is there something wrong with this picture? I was even more pissed. I called hm to come and get that junk out of my trailer. His reply was I'm being shelfish because I won't take on the responsibiltuy for that sled and take my 13 yr daughter snowmobiling. EXCUSE ME....... I couldn't get my daughters sled started so I walked back to the lodge. We left Sunday morning to come home.. Gordon told me he would have my sled finished by the next Weds. Weds comes no sled. and so the story goes for the whole month of March. He is going to bring it to me, no I'm to meet him on the pass, no I'm going to come and get it etc back and forth it went. I finally told him I want my sled fixed or not!!!!!! I am coming to get it onThursday March 24th. Prior to going to LaPIne to get the sled I called the sherrif to see where do I stand with this matter. It was a very interesting conversation to say the least. WEds, night I get an e-mail from Gordon telling me not to come over he won't be there. I thought that I had made it clear to him that I was coming to get the sled no matter what. I arrived in Lapine with a friend to get the sled, guess what Gordon was there !!!!!! I shocked him when I walked into his shop. He stated yelling at me waving a wrench in his hand and refused to give me my sled. he had it buried in the far end of his shop and had other sleds surrounding it , like you would see the indians attacking the wagon train. He is to busy to stop and get it out for me.....Even though he didn't have to I did bring help. The sherrif was called.... pictures are posted on Dlynn's face book. Gordon sent his helper home and told the sherriff he had an appointment to go to so he left. He also told the sherriff that he would have my sled fixed and delivered to me on the 30th of March. Right.... I know better.

On the 28th of March he goes to the local Sherriff's office and tells them that he is afraid of me. He has them call me to tell me to "BE NICE TO HIM" work with him. I am still laughing at that one. Gordon e-mails me telling me that he will bring my sled to me on the 30th we can meet on the pass, I am to bring no one wih me and I am to sign a wavier stating that I will not sue him before the sled comes off his trailer. If I do not agree to his terms then he will not come...... lets think about this ..... hummmm he is afraid of me ... but wants to meet up along side the highway location unknown...... I replied that Iwould meet him in the parking lot next to A&W in Oakridge and that I was going to bing a friend with me to video tape the exchange and help me load the sled if needed and that I will not sign a waiver before I have the sled checked out. NOPE he can't do that he is afraid of me....
we went back and forth over this finally he decides that the echange will be in the evening. Well I am not going to leave my daughter home at night for an ordeal that will take God knows how long. So she is coming along. Weds morning at 6:00 am. I get e-mail from him stating that he is not coming because he is afraid of me. And that my sled is now in lock down..... lockdown what did my sled do stickit's little ski out and trip him lol. and he is going to sue me and get a restraining order against me, We can settle this in court.
Now I have taken the high road in all this but this is getting out of hand when he cliams that I have used him and owe him money. I have canceled checks showing that I paid him. I owe him not a dime. hummmmm I guess every one of his customers just use him, are dead beats etc.

Understand I am not a spring chicken but am 60yrs old and only 5'2" what damage can I do to a man who is 6 or 5 yrs younger than me and weighs 300 lbs. Am I stupid for even thinking of trying to hurt him. I know how to use the legal system....

By the way this game that he is pulling on me he has pulled on someone else over some quads. Russ JR there is a lawsuit pending that case and I have spoken with Russ' Lawyer in Grants Pass.

I wonder just how many lawsuits can Gordon handle at one time. Also his ankle has been bothering him since DEc, how long does it take to heal an ankle????? We must feel sorry for him after all, all of his customers are dead beats and low lifes and he hurt his ankle.:heh:


Gordon do you understand I WANT MY SLED BACK

I am open to any and all comments if you have had bad dealings with him please let me know.
 
P.S. Enough

I forgot..... I must be getting old...
My fuel pump is located under the air box.. I wonder why did he remove my carb and then lose parts to it hummmmmm.

I do have e-mails text messages canceled checks to back up every thing I have stated.
 
You think!

I have heard from someone close to him, that says that he has a drug and alcohol addiction, but that is not a crime.

Selling my snowmobile and stealing the money IS! Gordan was right about one thing...I did not have the money to rebuild my motor (at Gordan's prices). That is why we decided to sell it "BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE MONEY!!!". Now Gordan thinks it OK to use our money to build his new shop at his mommy's , go snowmobiling, and pay medical bills for his sprang ankle. Bullsh!t He sold our sled on Jan. 2, 2011 and still has not paid us a dime. All we have gotten from him are lies and threats. He has threatened to sue us, send us to jail, get a restraining order (because I called him 11 times, so now he is scared). Pick up the phone, asswipe! Give us our money, Thief!

Gordan says he is not lying or stealing, what would you guys call this?

As for threatening him, Gordan does not understand that we live in the United States of America and that we are governed by the Constitution, and that we are protected by the 1st amendment, as such.

"The First Amendment provides protection for free speech regardless of the forum, being the Internet, the living room or a restaurant".

I bet if he gave us our money that he stole, I would never, ever, bring his name up again (unless I was taking a sh!T and saw him in the Bowl).

He's a real loser.
 
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