I agree...everything is that much faster to react on the khaos. Doesn't take long at all to get a handle on it though. Definitely more fun. Works really well with the 2.75 in deep snow. Doesn't wear you out near as much in a long day. Didn't notice much for trenching either with the 165. So far I'm impressed except for how tight you have to run the track and the rich bottom end. l haven't ridden it in set up conditions yet.