America under Obama

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Wow been gone for awhile...

So we know what we are ordering at authentic mexican restaurants?-what is beans, rice, beef and tortilla, or substitute pork for beef.

jsledder, man we have more Molis then mexicans in Rochester...the mexicans actually work though.

And most americans are "too good" to work as housekeepers, service people etc, so don't complain when little Pedro will do it!-holy chit I kinda agree with the french canadian bastage Well only a little bit, I think people from my generation think they are above this type of work.

jonnyk, so if I flee America if the hippies take over, will you welcome me and my family with open arms and a hot meal? Will you complain if I tell your boss I can do your job for less money?

And you weren't here first, the natives welcomed you with open arms then you turned around and effed them in the back door.-mmm the Natives like all peoples moved around and took over areas. MN used to be all Lakota tribes, even around Superior, then the Chipewa kicked them out west, etc. And I will leave NAtive talks at that becasue I don't wanna get wound up or have the time.

 

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It is a shame most people forget about that point. But it is easier to blame the Federal Govt than your own local government it would seem. The big bad feds did it again...

What? Down with States rights and responsibilities!!!

jonnyk, care to explain your dual citizenship? Just a young dumb whitey here, but I do believe tht dual citizenship is only good to the age of 18...well unless you are an Indian(but I won't go there).

I gotta go with Jay on the mexican deal again...in Rochester they are bad and yes they scare the chit outta me come harvest time(if they scare balck guys from DC and New Orleans, somethings up)...but they work. Now the Somalis on the other hand....

 

[Ollie]

Still haven't gotten an answer to my question.

If Obama went to work for the CIA, what's the highest security clearance he could possibly hold? I think I know. Commander and Chief?????? with just a secret security clearance.

Second, based on Obama's previous record of accomplishments, within the public legislative sector, why does anyone think Obama will actually do ANYTHING, if elected? Need proof.

I was watching MSNBC the other night. The talking heads were all about how Obama seems to be running out of steam.

His message about change resonated with a lot of people, however when those same people started to ask what he wanted to change, how he was going to accomplish it and how he was going to pay for it. A lot of opinions have started to change.

Apparently they did a pole 4 months back that showed Obama with a 7 - 10 point lead over McCain. That lead is now down to 1 point.

I just don't think Obama has enough BS to keep him going thru november.

 

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Heck, farmers keep bringing people into this country based on "labor needs". Why don't we charge everyone that's caught with illegal workers, for the care and welfare to support these people they brought in. Not to mention the law enforcement costs to catch them and ship them out.- Now your talking Wade.

Sorry I sped read the thread, what is your question?

 

[ericbigbore]

Smokinjay, you're train of thought is just plain scary! I'm not buying your arguements at all and YOU'RE THINKING is the problem with this country right now. I'm sure there is someone from another country that would love to come here and can do your job better than you for less money.So you would have no problem giving it up for to make this country better, right??

To say that 400 less $8 hr jobs equals 400 forclosures is just dumb math, you're smarter than that. It might equal 20 less trailors in that stinky arse dump of a town and that would be a good thing.

Ollie, Take up arms? Seriously? I do agree with a lot of your points but arms?? holy cow... pun..

 

[Ollie]

Ollie, Take up arms? Seriously? I do agree with a lot of your points but arms?? holy cow... pun..

OH it is more than just illigal immigration.
OUr laws have been degraded by the likes of the ACLU.
THe only people with rights are criminals. Now a days it is the victum is to be demonized till they drop their case or till the defence is FORCED to admit they are guilty.

Our politicians have forgotten who they are actually supposed to be protecting and putting forward legislation to help.

Our infrastructure is falling apart. The politicians are more interested in giving away money than they are keeping the country up and going.

We are turning into a welfare state with everyone and his brother wanting hand outs.
We are told by politicians that they are the only ones that can help us, the youth of this country are being raised to think they need the government to succeed when in fact the government needs them to think that way so they can survive.

We refuse to use our own oil supplies yet they government has done no real research into alternatives. They just don't mind if the economy tanks because they are more interested in playing politics and blaming each other than they are governing the country.

We refuse to protect our national forests, instead they let the enviro zealots destroy the forests by letting them just sit and rot/burn instead of logging to better promote the health of the forest.

There is a HUGE list of things that are driving this country into the ground.
At some point you have to say ENOUGH and take action.
For me, the breaking point will be illigal immigration.
At what point would anyone else be willing to stand up and say enough?

 

[smokenjay]

To say that 400 less $8 hr jobs equals 400 forclosures is just dumb math, you're smarter than that. It might equal 20 less trailors in that stinky arse dump of a town and that would be a good thing.

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Yeah, you are right. Dumb math. $8/hr wont buy you a much of a house. I was trying to make a broader point than that particular situation.


Well Ollie,

I'd like to start by complimenting you. I like the fact that you are an American who takes the time to keep up on what's happening out there. A lot of Americans don't bother with this. I also like your conviction to your beliefs. A lot of people don't have that either.

That being said......

The 90s were a prosperous time. You can't compare figures from then to figures from today. The market sets the amount of money that a certain job pays. If Greeley is having to pay $15 and everyone else is paying $8, well the company wont last forever. And believe me, everyone else is paying $8. They have the power to pay $8. Maybe you haven't heard this before but power corrupts.

Not fight for what I believe in? Roll over and take it? I think not. That's BS and a personal attack. That is NOT cool. I can think of quite a few personal attacks I could slap back with. I'm not going to do that. Read the "if I were a redneck" post. I must be a redneck because I am not afraid to speak my mind, regardless of my audiance. You seemed to agree with that post.

If I were you, I'd stop worrying about ol' smoken's trip to the poor house. No one that needs to swim the Rio Grande can do what I can do.

And finally,

If amnesty is granted, you plan on taking a gun from your home into the streets of Greeley. You intend to aim your weapon at a person or people.

And you say I love criminals

You intend to kill or cause harm to this person or people.

And you say I love criminals

You are going to force an officer of the law to kill you. Your blood is on his hands for life. Some might get past that, some might not.

And you say I love criminals

That's the most hypocritical thing I've heard in quite a while.

Hypocrite!

The times they are a changing. True when Dylan sang it in the 60s. True today. True for any period in history. I cant stop change. You cant stop change. The federal government cant stop change. You adapt to changes or you get left behind..................in the poor house.

Now I've said my piece too. Next subject.

 

[Ollie]

Now I've said my piece too. Next subject.

Fair enough.

 

[smokenjay]

I guess we agree to disagree on this one. I'm not going to change your mind. You're not going to change mine. I'm good with that.

 

[Ollie]

I guess we agree to disagree on this one. I'm not going to change your mind. You're not going to change mine. I'm good with that.

Think how boring it would be if we all agreed.
Make for boring conversation also
rep'd ya.

 

[ruffryder]

Think how boring it would be if we all agreed.
Make for boring conversation also
rep'd ya.

About as boring as discussing with people that have closed minds?

 

[MTm7]

About as boring as discussing with people that have closed minds?

its only closed in your mind... due to the fact they dont agree with you.

 

[ruffryder]

its only closed in your mind...

True dat!

due to the fact they dont agree with you.

False dat!

 

[Wade]

Wouldn't 400 less $8 jobs be 40 less houses? 400 $15 houses, might be 200 new homes. I'd say there's 400 less homes, because someone gave out 400 bad loans.

Oh well, any competitor with illegals should be worried Greeley will call the cops. It'll fix itself.

Ruffy:

About as boring as discussing with people that have closed minds?

Hey, I heard that.

 

[ruffryder]

Ruffy:

Hey, I heard that.

Comment was meant for everyone, myself included BTW.

 

[Wade]

OK, this is pretty dadgum funny: TimeForSomeCampaigning