900 vs 800 xp

[bailer]

Debunker

Nice try, I ride with two 900 RMK's. Not even close. I have a 163. They keep quiet on this issue because it is very apparent they aren't even in the same ballpark. Good sleds, but you have to get serious. You can talk on the site but I bet you keep quiet around the XP's as well.

 

[05900]

Hey boy I ride with a few, and I would love to take your money and all but your gonna need it for repairs. Nothin better than last years xrs until they get it right.

 

[fredw]

well guys i have came among a few 900s and some that have run strong compared to others(nitrous) and yet have been defeated climbing by them

i have also seen stock xp rental sleds and the 900 go at it, with a disappointed Polaris rider after

now for the 700 and 800 dragons, we had a 700 out a week ago and it ran close but not better than the xp, maybe the 800 would beat it, maybe not

this post was directed to the skidoo fourm, and why i peep in, just giving a reality check from my point of view

please do not take the wrong way...

 

[KevinW]

What are you guys smoking and where can the rest of us get some?

 

[IceCap]

What are you guys smoking and where can the rest of us get some?

Sometimes the truth is hard to take...........Yes some 900 RMKs don't perform as good as they could. However a well setup 900 is real hard to beat for any sled....... Only highly modded naturally aspirated ..... or forced induction will beat a dialed in 900.

 

[Doo_it!]

You POO boys need to hop off the 900 couch and try your new product! I watched an '07 POO 600 own an '06 900 all day today, and that is a fact!! 900 POO, too heavy, EFI sucks on it, Belt eater, underpowered, air intake system is ridiculous, plastic is garbage, front bumper is a joke, handlebars are for kids, seriously....how much money does it take for a 900 to run with the big boys?
I love Polaris, but 900???? Come now...surely you jest!

 

[dslayer]

come on doo doo

You POO boys need to hop off the 900 couch and try your new product! I watched an '07 POO 600 own an '06 900 all day today, and that is a fact!! 900 POO, too heavy, EFI sucks on it, Belt eater, underpowered, air intake system is ridiculous, plastic is garbage, front bumper is a joke, handlebars are for kids, seriously....how much money does it take for a 900 to run with the big boys?
I love Polaris, but 900???? Come now...surely you jest!

I'm sure you saw one bad rider( Maybe ) then you draw your conclusion. I ride all the time with 07 700's that don't own me thats for sure. Underpowered.... Doo doo come on

 

[wyogeorge]

You POO boys need to hop off the 900 couch and try your new product! I watched an '07 POO 600 own an '06 900 all day today, and that is a fact!! 900 POO, too heavy, EFI sucks on it, Belt eater, underpowered, air intake system is ridiculous, plastic is garbage, front bumper is a joke, handlebars are for kids, seriously....how much money does it take for a 900 to run with the big boys?
I love Polaris, but 900???? Come now...surely you jest!

If I am not mistaken he just menchened everything that is wrong with the XPOS's. Except the heavy part. Truely 460 dry is not bad. As long as you don't leave the trail to bend them. O and the fuel injection thing. Do you have that????

 

[Clarke673]

ok now you are just making stuff up doo it. I have TONS sleds this year and none of them pull as hard as my 900 except a 900 with NOS. 40 pounds don't mean chit when you are in deep powder, you are tired from riding 100 % all day, you sled is completely covered with snow and ice buildup. What matters is having a reliable sled that will reliably put you on top the hill, ride smoothest, float the easiest and float the best. I don't car if your XP is lighter than my 900. I know that with me riding my 900 i can put it allot higher on the hill than i can riding an XP. I know i love my sled and i also know that it is a very underestimated machine.

All i know is that my 900 will go places i don't need to be, it always gets to the point on the hill i want. Has never left me walking. Has never bucked me off on a hard mogle. has never left me crippled after a ride. And it has also never been out climbed by a 600, 700, or 800 anything, the only sleds that have high marked me this year are 07 M1000, and a few poo 900.My sled has always handled predictably in the true rocky mountains and I would never trust my life to any other sled deep in the back country ware having a better designed and better built sled saves lives.

BTW, yea my bumper on my 900 has been broken and yes it is a poor design. What can I say, don’t run into stuff and it will never get hurt.

 

[dslayer]

Well said I think some people just come on here to get a rise out of everybody... We know our machines and what they are capable of

 

[RJF]

You POO boys need to hop off the 900 couch and try your new product! I watched an '07 POO 600 own an '06 900 all day today, and that is a fact!!

Everyone's got a story. If I said I saw a Fan 550 136" sled pound out an XP in 27ft of bottomless powder, would it make any difference to you???? of course it wouldn't....

My nine can beat the living snot out of yesterday's 800's (poo Edge, Doo ZX early Rev), and can pound out a 900 Cat I ride with constantly....but does any of that matter to you???/Nope....

900 POO, too heavy, EFI sucks on it, Belt eater, underpowered, air intake system is ridiculous, plastic is garbage, front bumper is a joke, handlebars are for kids, seriously....how much money does it take for a 900 to run with the big boys?
I love Polaris, but 900???? Come now...surely you jest!

My nine weighs 565lbs WET with the skid still half full of snow..... Sure, your XP is incredibly light, but put some Rev's, 700Dragon, etc on a scale and you'll find they are all 550+lbs. Plastic is garbage? I've never seen the plastic hold up any better on any other model or make.... I've gotten a crap load of miles out of my belt....Yeah... our front bumper sucks.... Never rode with stock bars, I've got FLY's on mine.

It takes about $6,000 bucks right now to buy a setup 900 that will, at the very least, put up one heck of a fight hill climbing against a stock XP. What did that new XP cost again?????

 

[sleddoc]

9 hundo

I have a 05 900 that runs great. I did some research before modding it though. I wanted to pipe it but after reading the dyno sheets decided against it. Stock pipe with slp reflash made as much hp as the slp or crankshop pipe and reflsah. The biggest differance was weight of stocker. The most interesting thing was the torque curve. With the after market pipe the turque fell way off compared to stock pipe. Tons of torque is good to move a sled where ever you point it. ( keep that in mind when clutching) I also geared and clutched sled. And for the belt problem I had, I threw that plastic confu--tion of a air box in a snow bank some place and fabbed up a belt cover and air cleaner. Now comparing apples to apples, the guys with heads, reeds, pipe, air box mods don't hold a candle. From out of the hole to when ever I decide to release the flipper they behind me. Torque I think is the key. Not to mention the cash they dropped for all the go fast parts. Just my .02 But It is easy to tell when you are in front, your not eating snow dust.

 

[northof40]

Imagine this, a world with only one brand of snowmobile! Then what would everyone do. Possibly spend less time on the internet talking up there brand because they are so loyal to it that it would hurt to say that there sled was a pos, and spend more time enjoying the riding? Isn't that what the bottom line really is anyway?

 

[trench]

ok now you are just making stuff up doo it. I have TONS sleds this year and none of them pull as hard as my 900 except a 900 with NOS. 40 pounds don't mean chit when you are in deep powder, you are tired from riding 100 % all day, you sled is completely covered with snow and ice buildup. What matters is having a reliable sled that will reliably put you on top the hill, ride smoothest, float the easiest and float the best. I don't car if your XP is lighter than my 900. I know that with me riding my 900 i can put it allot higher on the hill than i can riding an XP. I know i love my sled and i also know that it is a very underestimated machine.

All i know is that my 900 will go places i don't need to be, it always gets to the point on the hill i want. Has never left me walking. Has never bucked me off on a hard mogle. has never left me crippled after a ride. And it has also never been out climbed by a 600, 700, or 800 anything, the only sleds that have high marked me this year are 07 M1000, and a few poo 900.My sled has always handled predictably in the true rocky mountains and I would never trust my life to any other sled deep in the back country ware having a better designed and better built sled saves lives.

BTW, yea my bumper on my 900 has been broken and yes it is a poor design. What can I say, don’t run into stuff and it will never get hurt.

Well said, I ride with one never ever in this season have I seen a xp even come close in a large untouched hill with fresh snow. The 900 will make an xp look under powered and heavy. There realy is no comparison. Sorry doo guy's not any time soon will I change my mind untill I see it with my own eye's. I think it's gon'a take that new 09 1000 xp.

 

[absorka]

not trying to continue to stir the pot, but this is my observations on the topic.

2 brothers I ride with bought new 06 900s for around $10k each. The were so disappointed they put about $4k in all the SLP stuff, head, pipe, intake porting ect... put floats with l.w. front a-arms. After all of that they still complained about them being toads and ended up dumping them for less than .50 on the dollar with less than 1000 miles on them.

1 is on a new xp and the other is on a 700 Dragon. They boot said that the 900 was the worst sled they ever owned and are happy with their new choices. These guys buy new ever year or 2.

I personally like they way they rode down the trail and they seemed to have plenty of grunt, but they were booth tired of getting spanked by revs and older Polaris RMKs. This is what they said.

Also, our local dealer has a lot of them in crates and admits in our area he can't give them away.

I personally own a ZX summit and an earlier RMK. No bias, just observation.

 

[xpdfcwut]

this thread makes me laugh. if the 9 is so great awnser this for me. One of my old riding buddies bought one right off the bat, he is HARD CORE pol. hes got lots of $ and spent it on his 9. the first second pol offered the 8 he dumped the 9 in a second. said the d8 has far more potental out of the box than his 9 ever had after the 1000's spent.

 

[sldgy]

1800 miles on my 06 900 and it just keeps getting stronger. Still using the new and improved $160 belt the dealer gave me in a year and a half ago. It has never let me down and gets me everywhere I need to go (and then some). Just wish it had a bigger gas tank!

 

[trickedout700]

i have a 06 900 166'' track stock and i ran against a brand new xp with minor mods.....(nitrous)....he says he didnt hit it. his is a 154'' but i would of thought that it would eat mine so i am more than happy with my sled for 5 grand less haha....

 

[Catmydoo]

More than 5 Geees less if you 900 guys love this sled so much you can keep buying it because every dealer in my area has a stack of these amazing sleds that they can't even pay people to take

 

[Clarke673]

That’s good for us I guess. I would rather people don't buy the sleds, just means cheaper parts for us

The only things I want to get for my sled is to get an HPS can because i am hardcore HPS fan and my sled came with an SLP can. So SLP can, good as new, shipped to your door for $175 OBO. I also want to bore the track out, get some new ice scrapers ( 14 year old kid i let barrow my sled didn't understand the meaning of "don't back up or it will hurt my sled"), new side panel as i melted a hole in it when i fell off climbing because of a well placed fence post just under the snow causing my sled to roll on its side at the bottome of the hill leaving me at the top, nitrous ( undecided on brand as of now), and some good powder ski's (also undecided).

So far i will have

$4500 to buy the sled
$200 to pick it up
$100 for ODI grips, handle bar pad, clutch parts,and a new recoil rope
$25 for an aluminum pull cord handle
So i have a $5000 sled and hear are its stats.

05 chassis- 1700 miles on it
06 engine - 500 miles on it
SLP air box, SLP pipe, SLP can (soon to be HPS), SLP head, SLP vents, SLP big wheel kit, Boss Seat, V-force-3 reeds, 159x2.4" track (soon to be ported), ODI grips, 2" handle bar riser, Sportech handle bar pad, and i just ordered Fly 2" rise handle bars. I like to think i am a good rider so i am confident that once i get it geared down a bit more, clutch it a little better, and get nitrous, im sure that there will not be a hill that i can't get to the top of. And if there are... well then not many sleds that cost $6000 (counting in nitrous and skis) can get to the top of.

And as for handling like a toad... Mine seams to float like an eagle... it jumps 56 feet quite nice I didn't get a pic but i did a 40 some feet lazy boy as well.