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4 Stroke Haters

I'll say this;

When they come out with a stock 150ish horsepower 4-stroke MOUNTAIN sled that handles, performs and weighs roughly what my rev does STOCK.....I'll jump ship and never go back. Just like I did with dirtbikes....no smoke, no stink, no oil, less engine failures...works for me.
 
people that are selling thier turbo 4 strokes are selling to upgrade to a better four stroke with out the extra money or simply they could handle the power and realized they couldnt so they are selling to go back to their 2 stroke. i have three polaris 800's and a boosted apex, ive tried the m1 and ski doo 1000 and i am sold on the boosted 4 stroke nothin better then going up a hill and lettin the turb blow of in someones face. or shootin up the hil and you have a huge crowd of people just watching and wishing!
 
Believe it or not, my buddy's t-nytro is easier to carve and sidehill then my m.:(
I didn't think anything could carve and sidehill better then an m-sled.
 
I am not making up these statistics here just observing the used market. When the used market shows an abundance of one type of thing for sale it generally doesnt mean its the hottest thing on market. I wont argue good and bad just showing peeps are dumping them and dumping them at huge loss's unrefutable.....

I agree some of the losses make you wonder, Seen some great prices and been trying to get a cat buddy on board. He has been wanting one for a long time but with the economy heading the way it is he hesatent.
 
When it comes down to it I dont really care that a 4-stroke is going to last 20000 miles becouse by the time I get 6000 miles on my 2-stroke the chassie is going to be worn out and tired. Sell and buy new and repeat.
 
I'll say this;

When they come out with a stock 150ish horsepower 4-stroke MOUNTAIN sled that handles, performs and weighs roughly what my rev does STOCK.....I'll jump ship and never go back. Just like I did with dirtbikes....no smoke, no stink, no oil, less engine failures...works for me.


Ditto. I've been wanting a sled like that for awhile!
 
I can settle this arguement right now. No pointing out the good bad or ugly from any sled. JUST NOTE.

Goto Yamaha sleds for sale,

20 listings per page

11of those listings are turbo sleds for sale. I can only say that there must be some reason guys are selling these sleds. I will let the rest of you fight that out.:beer;:beer;:beer;

That means absolutly nothing. The fact is, more people are installing turbos on four strokes therefore there more on the market. Whether someone wants to sell their turbo sled for financial reasons or for the simple fact that they would like to upgrade has no relevance to your " study ".

The fact that Chris rides a 2 stroke is probably mainly because of sponsorship and I wont even get into the reasons behind KC.... :rolleyes:

If you go to the Doo swapmeet there are PLENTY of XP's for sale... why would peeps be selling their brand new sleds ? maybe because they have had reliability issues ??

case in point.... go to totallyamaha and check out the threads. most of them deal with commonality and riding. Go to Dootalk or arcticshat and you will see thread after thread of problems after problems. belts, clutching,suspension, MOTORS, etc etc.
Not very often will you hear of a Yamaha having a motor failure. The only time you will hear or read of a failure is because someone overboosted, or predetonated because of boost/fuel issues. It's VERY rare to see a factory flaw or design issue. Can't say the same for the other big 3. Believe me, ive owned every brand out there and plenty of them.

I laugh when people talk about how heavy a Yamaha is. Try riding one before you judge. And if you want to boondock, come and follow me through the trees here in Revy... I'll be on my turbo Nytro. See if you can follow my track, It'll be the one WITHOUT ski marks, lmao..... :beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;
 
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Ageed... I have rode both and know the arm pulling insane power and like you stated if you are going to make the switch now is the time to do it. DEALS everywhere on some nice iron IMO. I thought of switching myself but due to already riding a heavy 900 POO i dont want to go any heavier and heavier it would be.
BTW, what is Chris Burandt and Krazy canadian riding this year?:beer;:beer;:D

ya lets take the guys opinion who rides the best sled in the world!! (900 poo)
u dont want to go any heavier??? wake up!! u could be a 02 poo and have a better sled!!:D
 
That means absolutly nothing. The fact is, more people are installing turbos on four strokes therefore there more on the market. Whether someone wants to sell their turbo sled for financial reasons or for the simple fact that they would like to upgrade has no relevance to your " study ".

The fact that Chris rides a 2 stroke is probably mainly because of sponsorship and I wont even get into the reasons behind KC.... :rolleyes:

If you go to the Doo swapmeet there are PLENTY of XP's for sale... why would peeps be selling their brand new sleds ? maybe because they have had reliability issues ??

case in point.... go to totallyamaha and check out the threads. most of them deal with commonality and riding. Go to Dootalk or arcticshat and you will see thread after thread of problems after problems. belts, clutching,suspension, MOTORS, etc etc.
Not very often will you hear of a Yamaha having a motor failure. The only time you will hear or read of a failure is because someone overboosted, or predetonated because of boost/fuel issues. It's VERY rare to see a factory flaw or design issue. Can't say the same for the other big 3. Believe me, ive owned every brand out there and plenty of them.

I laugh when people talk about how heavy a Yamaha is. Try riding one before you judge. And if you want to boondock, come and follow me through the trees here in Revy... I'll be on my turbo Nytro. See if you can follow my track, It'll be the one WITHOUT ski marks, lmao..... :beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;

talk about somebody who sees alot of high hp sledsz lets here people tell this guy yammis r boat ankers!!

turnkey and ride
 
When it comes down to it I dont really care that a 4-stroke is going to last 20000 miles becouse by the time I get 6000 miles on my 2-stroke the chassie is going to be worn out and tired. Sell and buy new and repeat.

dont know alot of people with 6000 problem free miles on 2 strokes?? there are some but not many
 
I'll say this;

When they come out with a stock 150ish horsepower 4-stroke MOUNTAIN sled that handles, performs and weighs roughly what my rev does STOCK.....I'll jump ship and never go back. Just like I did with dirtbikes....no smoke, no stink, no oil, less engine failures...works for me.

Amen Brother! As I said in a different forum - When they make a stock 4 stroke with 150-160 hp, under 500 lbs that feels like my M8 in all conditions for the same $$ that I spent on my M8, I will be 4 strokin it.
 
Doesn't it piss you off when you want to give duke1n some neg rep but you can't because you already gave him some yesterday LMFAO? Let me know when you are ready to take off your turbo 4 stroke training wheels and put your big girl 2 stroke panties on ladies lol

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That means absolutly nothing. The fact is, more people are installing turbos on four strokes therefore there more on the market. Whether someone wants to sell their turbo sled for financial reasons or for the simple fact that they would like to upgrade has no relevance to your " study ".

The fact that Chris rides a 2 stroke is probably mainly because of sponsorship and I wont even get into the reasons behind KC.... :rolleyes:

If you go to the Doo swapmeet there are PLENTY of XP's for sale... why would peeps be selling their brand new sleds ? maybe because they have had reliability issues ??

case in point.... go to totallyamaha and check out the threads. most of them deal with commonality and riding. Go to Dootalk or arcticshat and you will see thread after thread of problems after problems. belts, clutching,suspension, MOTORS, etc etc.
Not very often will you hear of a Yamaha having a motor failure. The only time you will hear or read of a failure is because someone overboosted, or predetonated because of boost/fuel issues. It's VERY rare to see a factory flaw or design issue. Can't say the same for the other big 3. Believe me, ive owned every brand out there and plenty of them.

I laugh when people talk about how heavy a Yamaha is. Try riding one before you judge. And if you want to boondock, come and follow me through the trees here in Revy... I'll be on my turbo Nytro. See if you can follow my track, It'll be the one WITHOUT ski marks, lmao..... :beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;


Well said Veedy! Don't see a bunch of peeps takin' you up on your offer to follow that heavy sled of yours through the trees!!
 
WOW...You 4 stroke guys are about as sensitive about your weight as a woman.:beer;:beer;:D

ya'll will ride a heavy one and defend her cause she may be heavy but is darn good at what she can doo.;)
 
Doesn't it piss you off when you want to give duke1n some neg rep but you can't because you already gave him some yesterday LMFAO? Let me know when you are ready to take off your turbo 4 stroke training wheels and put your big girl 2 stroke panties on ladies lol

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LMAO...


Its all just fun and games anyway!
 
Turbos 4 strokes are like training wheels for people that don't have sufficient to ride a 2 stroke well braaap!

Did it not occur to you that most of us started out on 2 strokes and when we were ready to take the training wheels off we moved up to the turbo 4 strokes. Just like your sig says...."Down on power".. Don't be a hater, you won't have to ride that underpowered, stinky, unreliable 2 stroke for ever, LOL
 
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