3" Track for the Pro
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RSM.... You could be right and he just modded the track.
My X3 ....the outer lugs seem to be different shape.
But... the track is so beat up and muddy that I cant tell.
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My X3 ....the outer lugs seem to be different shape.
But... the track is so beat up and muddy that I cant tell.
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Really looking into this mod for next season, with a season on this mod what's the best way to go center punched track and center driver or the non ported and powder claw drivers. Thanks in advance for feedback pm me if you don't wanna respond on this thread
Really looking into this mod for next season, with a season on this mod what's the best way to go center punched track and center driver or the non ported and powder claw drivers. Thanks in advance for feedback pm me if you don't wanna respond on this thread
I'm a fan of the non-ported track and running the Powerclaw drivers with a rail trim and anti-stab kit. That center extro driver tends to get ice build-up in certain types of conditions even on stock applications and can cause some different type of issues.
The non-ported track also performs way better in water crossings. Even the shortest crossings can be tricky.
Also much less chance of track ratcheting with the Powerclaw drivers IF your track happens to be a little on the loose side which can happen on those surprise last minute load and blow rides in 3 feet of fresh and you haven't yet checked over your sled.
I also recommend the Ice Age anti-stab kit over the Wahl bros.
The non-ported track also performs way better in water crossings. Even the shortest crossings can be tricky.
Also much less chance of track ratcheting with the Powerclaw drivers IF your track happens to be a little on the loose side which can happen on those surprise last minute load and blow rides in 3 feet of fresh and you haven't yet checked over your sled.
I also recommend the Ice Age anti-stab kit over the Wahl bros.
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TracksCanada
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I need to take more training or something so I can tell from a picture that a track has been run in "marginal" "dry" and "looks like heat delam" condition.
The few hundred 3" tracks I've sold and all the warranties I've done over last 4+ years has taught me nothing! Shame on me!
I only stood at the overhead door of the dealership and said "man that's a BIG muddy parking lot " This 3" paddle track was on the service managers sled.
goridedoo PLEASE see above statement^^
M/H: PLEASE, I would be so grateful to have you share pictures of the new X3 track failure on extended chain case with 8 tooth drivers. I've never personally seen that combination failure or had a customer or non customer tell me of it. (I have to get out more) LOL
"Camoplast says that the number one issue is caused by heat in the track.... flexing the paddle back and forth" Who is this person? Another sales manager? or the head "spin guy" himself. That's not what the warranty people tell me.
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I need to take more training or something so I can tell from a picture that a track has been run in "marginal" "dry" and "looks like heat delam" condition.
The few hundred 3" tracks I've sold and all the warranties I've done over last 4+ years has taught me nothing! Shame on me!
I only stood at the overhead door of the dealership and said "man that's a BIG muddy parking lot " This 3" paddle track was on the service managers sled.
goridedoo PLEASE see above statement^^
M/H: PLEASE, I would be so grateful to have you share pictures of the new X3 track failure on extended chain case with 8 tooth drivers. I've never personally seen that combination failure or had a customer or non customer tell me of it. (I have to get out more) LOL
"Camoplast says that the number one issue is caused by heat in the track.... flexing the paddle back and forth" Who is this person? Another sales manager? or the head "spin guy" himself. That's not what the warranty people tell me.
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TracksCanada
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TracksCanada
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I couldn't agree with you more !!!!!
I'm just thinking out loud: the nerve of the DOO engineers putting an extended chaincase in those sleds. Don't they read the threads. The threads say you don't need it, and they are always right aren't they?
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rmscustom
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Hrt Offroad
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That's what I have read in all the released literature as well (7 tooth)
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TracksCanada
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Since you "quoted" me I thought proper protocall was you wanted me to answer. Guess I was wrong or I took too long and kev needed to answer.
ROTFLMAO
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TracksCanada
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The only advantage "I believe" in the 7 tooth is more room for snow and air evacuation.
There has been discussion on here about 8 tooth driver moving the track down 1/2" more than 7 tooth (more in harms way of hitting something) which in theory I agree with. I believe that 1/2" is worth any risk over the potential of a track failure (give the past history of 7 tooth 3" combo)
There has been a significant reduction in track failures with the new X3 over the previous C/E 3" That said we didn't know that at the beginning of the 2013 / 2014 season that would be true. (it's always easier to pick the winning team after the game is over) LOL
There is also the theory of heat build up on 7 tooth over 8 tooth. I'm more neutral on that theory as we have to (in all fairness) look at the other end of the sled with (Polaris) small rear axle wheels. Is there not the same heat build up there??
I have a Carl's set up with the 162 X3, their revalved shocks and a heavy spring on the rear shock (235 lbs.). It works perfectly. It does run hotter on the trail but I have never been over 160 even on an icy trail. It works great in spring snow conditions uphill and downhill. I have several friends who put the 156 X3 tracks on their 155s. They have had issues with wheelies and trenching. I have seen neither problem with the 162. It will lift the skis easier than the old track but it is not a detriment. I actually like the transfer better with the X3 than I did with the stock track. The center port/Avid 7 tooth driver system reduces the vibration and noise that are evident with the non ported track too. I did not want the anti stab kit and it is not required when you run the center port with the Avid drivers. Finally, my track is warranted. The center ported tracks that Carl's bought from Camoplast were punched at the factory.
Great info!!!!!
Anyone else have a review of their X3 from this season? Good or bad ?
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I need to take more training or something so I can tell from a picture that a track has been run in "marginal" "dry" and "looks like heat delam" condition.
The few hundred 3" tracks I've sold and all the warranties I've done over last 4+ years has taught me nothing! Shame on me!
I only stood at the overhead door of the dealership and said "man that's a BIG muddy parking lot " This 3" paddle track was on the service managers sled.
goridedoo PLEASE see above statement^^
M/H: PLEASE, I would be so grateful to have you share pictures of the new X3 track failure on extended chain case with 8 tooth drivers. I've never personally seen that combination failure or had a customer or non customer tell me of it. (I have to get out more) LOL
"Camoplast says that the number one issue is caused by heat in the track.... flexing the paddle back and forth" Who is this person? Another sales manager? or the head "spin guy" himself. That's not what the warranty people tell me.
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I'm just thinking out loud: the nerve of the DOO engineers putting an extended chaincase in those sleds. Don't they read the threads. The threads say you don't need it, and they are always right aren't they?
TracksCanada is the snarky sarcasm a sales technique you use a lot? Being a d/ck has never helped me sell anything. I put a 3" X3 on my 13 Pro and its been run hard for 2 years on 7 tooth drivers and it still looks nearly new. Best mod I did to that sled and I did another $6-7000 worth to that sled. I even think it handles better with the X3. My buddies have over 2000 hard mountain miles on Boonedocker Turbo Pros running 12lbs using 7 tooth drivers too.
Maybe try and post your opinion(which is backed by experience so I give it a lot more weight than most posters) and leave the doucheyness out.
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newtrout
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Yeah, it's weird to see a retailer post like that. Most sales folks realize it isn't such a good idea to be so condescending and insulting in a public forum. Especially when you are directly representing your company.
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TracksCanada
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I'm just thinking out loud: the nerve of the DOO engineers putting an extended chaincase in those sleds. Don't they read the threads. The threads say you don't need it, and they are always right aren't they?
TracksCanada is the snarky sarcasm a sales technique you use a lot? Being a d/ck has never helped me sell anything. I put a 3" X3 on my 13 Pro and its been run hard for 2 years on 7 tooth drivers and it still looks nearly new. Best mod I did to that sled and I did another $6-7000 worth to that sled. I even think it handles better with the X3. My buddies have over 2000 hard mountain miles on Boonedocker Turbo Pros running 12lbs using 7 tooth drivers too.
Maybe try and post your opinion(which is backed by experience so I give it a lot more weight than most posters) and leave the doucheyness out.[/QUOTE]
Mattemurder & newtrout:
Guess you guys don't get my sense of humor. I'm not going to call you a d/ck or any other criticism because of that. If that makes you feel good then good.
Mattemurder: Camoplast will be happy that you are happy & haven't had any trouble with your track. You not having any track issues makes you right and those that have had track issues are wrong?
The amount of track warranties I've seen, I just call em the way I see them. I'm not here to sell you or anyone else anything. I'm a sledder just like you and I have my own opinion. You don't like that, so be it.
