3" Lug Mountain Sled Shootout

[Timbre]

Very interesting Mountain Sled Shootout. Doo doo even did pretty good

Hopefully this link will work.
https://youtu.be/fQZYvZizmxs

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[wellfed777]

actually pretty good vid write up

some coolaid drinkin probably but seems about accurate

from my perspective

 

[Sage Crusher]

Great write up - and Vid.. agreed!/ gets the blood going for the winter fun- Like to see how close the doo is this season,,,,, it will be a great year for tweaking for sure... ( not twurking)

S/C

 

[snowmobiler]

and den came the 850 skidoo's and ka bam.made everything else oldschool.LOL

 

[richracer1]

and den came the 850 skidoo's and ka bam, there went the crank.LOL

Fixed if you snowmobiler.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

It is bias,
1, comment on a weak front end of the summit but nothing about the weak poo arms???
2, On a cat you can do as little as a primary clutch spring to get bottom end grunt without sacrificing top end pull. If you can't figure that out you shouldn't be giving reviews.
3, Polaris lacks in suspension!

The axys chassis in stock form is the best. But with the changes we make on the cat, skinny boards and gripper skis, it is easier until you put real shocks on the axys. Then it's a matter of getting used to it, I could go either way most of the time. There are a few areas I like the cat more and some I like the axys.

The biggest thing that makes a axys great after those changes is a power claw track, massive improvements, but not cheap.

No other sled will compete with it until narrowed when it comes to backcountry riding!

My biggest problem with the video is where he says the old cat spindles used to cause drag. It isn't the freaking spindles!!!!!! What did the most was the taller track so it lifted the boards out of the snow along with narrow a arms for a better balance point. Again, it's not the spindles, no one ever complained about drag on any of my sleds since 2012, because they where all the same width as the pro/axys.
Baffles me when ppl keep bringing this up over and over and look right past the fat boards.

Since I've rode them all and modified the width of all the others, board width and height is by far the biggest disadvantage going against the axys!!!

And I haven't heard of anyone that paid 14,400 for a cat the sold under 14 and closer to 13k. Just like the axys did. Everyone knows that.

 

[Scott]

It is bias,
1, comment on a weak front end of the summit but nothing about the weak poo arms???
2, On a cat you can do as little as a primary clutch spring to get bottom end grunt without sacrificing top end pull. If you can't figure that out you shouldn't be giving reviews.
3, Polaris lacks in suspension!

The axys chassis in stock form is the best. But with the changes we make on the cat, skinny boards and gripper skis, it is easier until you put real shocks on the axys. Then it's a matter of getting used to it, I could go either way most of the time. There are a few areas I like the cat more and some I like the axys.

The biggest thing that makes a axys great after those changes is a power claw track, massive improvements, but not cheap.

No other sled will compete with it until narrowed when it comes to backcountry riding!

My biggest problem with the video is where he says the old cat spindles used to cause drag. It isn't the freaking spindles!!!!!! What did the most was the taller track so it lifted the boards out of the snow along with narrow a arms for a better balance point. Again, it's not the spindles, no one ever complained about drag on any of my sleds since 2012, because they where all the same width as the pro/axys.
Baffles me when ppl keep bringing this up over and over and look right past the fat boards.

Since I've rode them all and modified the width of all the others, board width and height is by far the biggest disadvantage going against the axys!!!

And I haven't heard of anyone that paid 14,400 for a cat the sold under 14 and closer to 13k. Just like the axys did. Everyone knows that.

Did I read in there that you said the best way to make the Cat better is to bolt on Polaris parts?

 

[Timbre]

The axys chassis in stock form is the best.

As i understand it, this video was about STOCK sleds. It is true, one can make any sled better by doing certain mods to it.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

Did I read in there that you said the best way to make the Cat better is to bolt on Polaris parts?

Yep!
Just like putting cat parts on the axys makes it better.

If we could only mix and match, lol

 

[WyoBoy1000]

As i understand it, this video was about STOCK sleds. It is true, one can make any sled better by doing certain mods to it.

Clearly I like the axys chassis, so don't misunderstand.

My main point is that it is clearly bias and it's obvious, they spend more time harping on the others and don't say anything about the axys faults. If your going to go down that road then I'm going to bring it up on all of them.
If they wouldn't have brought up the downfalls of others I wouldn't have an issue with it.
But to say the cat doesn't have low end power, i don't care who it is they are an idiot!
To bring up a weak front end on the XM and not mention the weaker a arms and bent rear brackets of an axys. 100% bias.
If it's about 3" it should also be stated the 3" power claw is by far the best, then doo because it's 16 wide, then poo, that poo track sucks in comparison.
Don't forget Polaris s lack of shocks. They are so much better handling with the right shock setup.

But no, the axys is perfect, objection is price, really, and you could buy them through snow check for 13,600.
The dude is clearly bias and lacks the knowledge to understand what actually makes the sled work.

Simple fact is if your riding ink stock and won't throw a few hundred at the other sleds to narrow, then get the axys.

If you put 1800 in a cat it will stomp a axys, and it should for the money. Of course because you upgraded it.
But to bring the axys up to Parr it will cost you at least 3k to match it prob 5k

 

[Scott]

Yep!
Just like putting cat parts on the axys makes it better.

If we could only mix and match, lol

I can think of a few mixing and matching among all four.

 

[wellfed777]

Wyo
i thought the same thing about the arms

little kool aid in his coffee maybe

 

[LoudHandle]

I would not have rated the lesser three, nearly as high. And while I have used a few Skud parts on my sleds, I've never found a Cat or Yammi part that I needed. As for the forged AXYS lower arms, some have run them without issue and some have had nothing but problems, I think it boils down to your expectations. If you are logging with your A-arms you will have issues with any sled.

 

[diamonddave]

I would not have rated the lesser three, nearly as high. And while I have used a few Skud parts on my sleds, I've never found a Cat or Yammi part that I needed. As for the forged AXYS lower arms, some have run them without issue and some have had nothing but problems, I think it boils down to your expectations. If you are logging with your A-arms you will have issues with any sled.

You bring up a good point. I know guys that went through 5-6 sets of a arms and I know riders that ride just as hard that didn't go through 1 a-arm this year.

I would disagree with you about their rating of the T-3. It's a bad *** sled.

But...Out of the box, the 2016 Axys is/was the best stock sled.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

I would not have rated the lesser three, nearly as high. And while I have used a few Skud parts on my sleds, I've never found a Cat or Yammi part that I needed. As for the forged AXYS lower arms, some have run them without issue and some have had nothing but problems, I think it boils down to your expectations. If you are logging with your A-arms you will have issues with any sled.

Same goes for the XM

I haven't had issue with either but they brought it up, Not Me, so it should be addresses just *** much on the axys.

If you haven't experienced a powerclaw your missing out, the axys is so much better with it.

Don't forget the joke poo shock valving

 

[LoudHandle]

The (3") Power Claw is only 2 3/4"- 2 13/16" at best if measured like it should be (from the top of the belt). And if that is all Cat has going for them I'll pass.

The 2.6" Power Claw is actually only a 2.4" lug as well. FWIW

False advertising at it's finest. Go Cat!

 

[summ8rmk]

Yup, and it still out performs all of the taller tracks.

GS6

 

[CO 2.0]

I put the 3" powerclaw on my axys last year. Definitely out performs the stock axys 3" that was on it. Was wondering why my 16 Cat was doing better in the CO pow early season, now I know it was the track. Expensive with custom rails and drivers, but I'm very happy I did it. Would not want to go back to stock.

 

[sledheader]

I put the 3" powerclaw on my axys last year. Definitely out performs the stock axys 3" that was on it. Was wondering why my 16 Cat was doing better in the CO pow early season, now I know it was the track. Expensive with custom rails and drivers, but I'm very happy I did it. Would not want to go back to stock.

How does it compare to an axys with an x3? how does the x3 compare to a 3" polaris track or the 2.6?

I have the 2.6 that is missing like 18 lugs and seeing wear around the windows. Gonna try to get something else on before the snow flies. Iw as looking at the x3 or the x3.2 but not many people are running them.

 

[CO 2.0]

I have zero experience with the X3. Just the Polaris, Doo and Cat stock 3" tracks.