2022 Timbersled Model updates?
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I don't know the weight of the 3". However I have spent quite a bit of time comparing my Riot 129x2.5" to the Riot3. I haven't come across a situation where the 129x2.5" is better than the 3". The first few days was in deep very dry powder, the 3" is the obvious choice for those conditions.
More recently the snow has been more typical of my area. Some ice, some hardpack and of course some powder days. I'd pick the 3" for all of it.
Comparing the 2 back to back the 3" pops up out of the snow and drives forward substantially better than the 2.5". I'd say close to 50% better. It's frustrating now to get back on my 2.5" track as it just seems to take forever to get going, the track spins like crazy and floats pretty decent but lacks the forward drive and lift that the 3" has. There is so much traction with the 3" that it brings the 129 back to the level of playfulness that the riot 120 has. There is a lot of playfulness lost by going from a Riot 120 to a Riot 129x2.5", you can still do all the riot things it just takes a lot more effort.
The 3" does take a little different riding style though. I find myself using less RPM's, but have more momentum if that makes any sense. With the 2.5 I'm usually wide open throttle and spinning the track as much as possible, on the 3" you don't rely on track speed as much, you just put the traction to use - less RPM's but more ground speed.
What's your riding style?
The Riot3s isn't quite as "Riot" as the full height version. It's more playful than the ARO for sure, but not quite as rowdy as the full height Riot. I've been impressed with the Riot3s and the suspension tune feels really good. But I'm 6'1", so ordering a Riot3.
Both Tsled and Yeti fall a bit short in the progression of their kits in my opinion. I sure expected Tsled to add belt drive to their kits by now and Yeti to have a 3" model. I'll stay on my older 2016 Yeti until one of them comes out with a no compromise kit for the $$$$!
Well, here are my thoughts.
Riot excels in playfulness, but tends to fall a bit short of the Yeti in the deep snow so why not put the 3" track to improve it's deep snow performance...... (don't flame me..... on average it does)
The Yeti, set up properly, excels in the deep snow, but falls short for playfulness, so why would someone want to possibly make playfulness more of an issue with a 3" track? (Yes, I can make it more playful, but at the expense of deep snow performance. Playfulness is my biggest gripe with the Yeti after coming off of a CMX)
Keith
Riot excels in playfulness, but tends to fall a bit short of the Yeti in the deep snow so why not put the 3" track to improve it's deep snow performance...... (don't flame me..... on average it does)
The Yeti, set up properly, excels in the deep snow, but falls short for playfulness, so why would someone want to possibly make playfulness more of an issue with a 3" track? (Yes, I can make it more playful, but at the expense of deep snow performance. Playfulness is my biggest gripe with the Yeti after coming off of a CMX)
Keith
3” paddle does tend to wheelie more.
Thanks teal_210 for the input on track comparisons. More traction and less rpms would be just the ticket for big bore guys like me on a 570. The power is down low and mid range, not reved out. Your thoughts on track speed was just what i was hoping to get input on!
This where it gets complicated. I don't ride tight trees however I love playing in gladed trees. I love playing in bowls, climbing hills, hitting corneas's, half pipes. I don't want to give up stability, sidehilling, or deap snow abilities. They talk about approach angle on the ARO and the stability, and while there is merit and a requirement for those traits how much does one sacrifice going to the RIOT. In my case I'm 5'7" and 140 lbs. thus the S.
Thanks for your input teal_210
Based on what you described, I'd go with the Riot 3s. People will find out pretty fast that the deep snow ability of the Riot3 and Riot3s is on par with the Aro3 and Aro3s. If you would have said your ideal day is covering as much terrain and logging as many miles as possible I'd suggest the Aro line.
To address the stability comment. The Aro is very stable, rider positioning matters but not a whole lot. The riot can be setup similar to the aro, or it can be setup to be very much like a dirtbike. The riot rewards a rider who moves around and puts their weight where it needs to be. People who enjoy the riot are generally pretty active riders.
