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2016 Polaris Axys Vrs skidoo T3 ?

lets see video of a axys outdoing a trail doo 174 anywhere in the mountains.LOL

Be sure to put a 174 on the axys to make it an apples to apples comparison.

I ride with a guy on a 174x3 doo (before the T3's came out), it makes a big difference. You have to use the same track length and lug height when comparing, otherwise they arent even worth comparing.

Heck, i swapped from a PC 2.25 to a PC 2.6 (both 153) and it was a big difference.
 
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Im a doo guy and it was a sno check year. I did the doo t3 and the only reason was is I didn't want a first year sled. Everything Im reading the axys is just smoking the doo. I think next year this axys will be in my garage. I have never , ever owned a Polaris, but looks like its going to change. I have had the first year cat as well as several first year doo's and didn't have luck at all. What im reading comparing apples vs apples the doo doesn't hold a candle to the pro.
 
Comparable rider and comparable sled the axys isn't destroying the Doo like some want you to think. Also the comparison between the 174 t3 and the 163 axys was made by Keith Curtis in the spring so now there getting compared and people call foul.
 
Im a doo guy and it was a sno check year. I did the doo t3 and the only reason was is I didn't want a first year sled. Everything Im reading the axys is just smoking the doo. I think next year this axys will be in my garage. I have never , ever owned a Polaris, but looks like its going to change. I have had the first year cat as well as several first year doo's and didn't have luck at all. What im reading comparing apples vs apples the doo doesn't hold a candle to the pro.

after being on cats for years ,i got a first year pro 2011 and loved it :face-icon-small-ton
 
Comparable rider and comparable sled the axys isn't destroying the Doo like some want you to think. Also the comparison between the 174 t3 and the 163 axys was made by Keith Curtis in the spring so now there getting compared and people call foul.

i could definitely see that. I think the differences when comparing apples to 3" apples, is what you like. The Axys is truly more friendly for technical riding. But i seriously doubt the Doo will be left in the dust.
 
Its all good -- some of my pro buddies have switched to the new axis. I still have my 2015 154 doo. last year it was running with 163 poos dialled and piped just fine.
This year I shed 30 pounds Sled (Hood Ti can skid wheels) and--20 pounds Me :) Upgraded shocks and skid geometry--let the games begin :face-icon-small-ton A well dialled sled will always be a contender. A new model is just a blank piece of paper. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
my buddy just ask me to find Ripper skies for his T3 163, diving much in the front? and he is having it big bored... nice but why?
 
The grippers will help for sure but the suspension set up can also make that worse although you can't make it go completely away.
 
Here is my take on it.

History:

I rode a Pro from 2011-2014. Loved it, great sled, got tired of the terrible resale and instead of dumping money into my 13 pro to put a 3" track on it, I decided to give the T3 163 a try.

This is where it might change things a bit. Where I had so much fun on the pro and liked a lot of how it felt and I knew what I didn't like about the doo I immediately made changes to the t3. It got a post forward kit, dan adams bars, gripper skis, fox 3 evol R's up front, Toms emtion skid, tki belt drive and diamond s can.

I jumped on the sled and immediately loved it. There was now getting used to it. I was immediately comfortable. The issues of washing out that others had I didn't. The tendency to wheelie was easily fixed with some adjustments to the skid / air pressures. I really have very little if any complaints on it.

In January last year, I got to be one of the demo riders on the Axys. I didn't end up on their little promo video because I was one of the only riders to criticize it. Without getting too long winded. Here is what I found. Snow conditions were pretty bad. Mostly set up and very difficult to find and steep and deep. I loved the power and snappiness of the new motor. Hopefully those lightweight cranks hold up. If they do, it will be awesome. We did find some steep and deep powder for a couple short tree runs. It rallies in the trees. Handles well, initiates corners well and climbs well and gets up on top of the snow rather quickly. Noticeably better than the pro. My chief complaint was that in the set up snow it felt like the old xp and wanted to fall back downhill. Since the snow conditions were mostly set up, my experience was 90% set up snow fighting the machine (I think mostly due to the elevated center of gravity) and 10% steep and deep where it really shines. We did move the skis out of the narrowest position and it felt much better on the set up snow. Overall I liked the axys and feel that for advanced, aggressive riders it will really shine. I just worry that some of the newer riders may struggle, specifically on typical set up days. I know most of us here buy a sled for how it performs in the deep, but unfortunately a lot of rides are still set up / not perfect snow.

As for side by side comparisons, I have yet to do that. Fortunately I have a few Axys in my fleet this year and I should get lots of opportunity to ride both side by side. I am anxious to get more seat time on the axys and get a better feel for it. But as for now I have zero regrets with sticking with my t3 for another season. Not to mention I wasn't anxious to be another polaris guinea pig.

There's my 2 cents.
 
I'm not sure about down there...but up here that would be $4-$5k+ of mods all day long to your t3...so by rights, it should be dialed to your preferences and be able to outperform a stock sled, because that's a fair bit of change. You could do a lot, or go a few different directions with a pro or an axys with similar $$ on top of purchase price. Just to keep things fair.

Kinda like the guy who is disappointed the axys feels underpowered compared to his turbo pro.
 
I'm not sure about down there...but up here that would be $4-$5k+ of mods all day long to your t3...so by rights, it should be dialed to your preferences and be able to outperform a stock sled, because that's a fair bit of change. You could do a lot, or go a few different directions with a pro or an axys with similar $$ on top of purchase price. Just to keep things fair.

Kinda like the guy who is disappointed the axys feels underpowered compared to his turbo pro.

Yep, which is why I said this is where it changes things a bit then listed my mods. I was giving my input on MY sled. And my input on the Axys. I never said that my t3 would out perform the axys. I simply put the one item I didn't like about the axys and a bunch of what I did like about it.

Lucky for me I'll have plenty of seat time on both this winter as long as the snow gods cooperate. The great thing about not being brand loyal is that if I love the axys, I'll sell the t3 and buy one next season. I just wasn't sold on it enough to give up the one I built. :face-icon-small-coo
 
Soooo what your saying is it takes $5000 in mods to a t3 to make it fun like a stock pro. Hmmm
 
Coming soon, just need the snow... In my case it will be a slightly better rider that uses a 155 Axys to out do a 174 T3 Doo. One of my riding crew just bought the yellow bus. Pretty sure I can still school him regardless of machine...

I shared your comment with him, he is ready when you are lol just keeping it honest :-)
 
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