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2015 Diesel Tundra vs The Rest
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Don't you understand that we are lucky to have members here that are far more intelligent than teams of mechanical engineers?
Don't you understand that we are lucky to have members here that are far more intelligent than teams of mechanical engineers?
are you saying the c channel is better than a fully boxed truck chasis
Advantages & disadvantages to both.
But what I'm saying is that I would feel much safer in a truck designed by Ford's engineering team than some keyboard clown.
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Weight is an interesting topic with trucks.
Half tons. Grocery getters sure. Save a couple hundred pounds to push fuel economy.
In the 1 ton, With 22,000lbs of bales on the flat deck mmm yes ill take added (x) lbs of structural beef.
Then someone mentioned highway tractors... 42 ton of canola seed on a super B. strength first weight of truck second.
Now fancy materials could be used to keep tractor n trailer weights down so payload could be increased, i think we know from the light weight sleds that we pay for those exotic materials
so trucks have been using c-channel for 100years successfully, but now in the last few years it is not good enough? so what your tellin me is that my '97 tacoma with a mostly boxed frame is a far cry stronger than my 05 3500 dmax with a c-channel frame? and all this time i been using the dmax to pull the trailers, risking it breaking in half when i had a much stronger boxed frame taco i coulda used.
p.s. toyotas are gay
p.s. toyotas are gay
Chevys are ONLY available in 3:73 gears so WHAT choice did they have? STOCK that is.
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Chev 1 ton... Only available in 3:73?
I dont believe it. You should confirm this. If that IS true... Well... Somebody needs to give their head a shake. 30,000lbs gvw at 60 mph. Your not using your range of gears.
GMC/Chevy are only available with the 3.73 gear ratio on a Diesel motor. If you get the 6.0 gasser you can get 4.10 gears.
Either way that all came down to gear ratio. The Ford is using 4.30 gear ratio. Clearly it is built to tow more weight faster, but your fuel economy is going to suffer. Is it a big deal that over 7 miles or whatever it is it beats the GM by 25 seconds? What if the Ford is getting 6 MPG while towing that and the GM is getting 9 MPG?
Put the Ford on there with a 3.73 ratio or even 4.10 ratio and you can bet your *** the Ford is slower.
Be happy we have options.
Either way that all came down to gear ratio. The Ford is using 4.30 gear ratio. Clearly it is built to tow more weight faster, but your fuel economy is going to suffer. Is it a big deal that over 7 miles or whatever it is it beats the GM by 25 seconds? What if the Ford is getting 6 MPG while towing that and the GM is getting 9 MPG?
Put the Ford on there with a 3.73 ratio or even 4.10 ratio and you can bet your *** the Ford is slower.
Be happy we have options.
By raise of hands, how many of you tow 30,000 lbs?
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I learned something today
I do. I had a Chevy 3500 with a 12 ft flatbed. Frame was weak and body roll made it scary to drive even empty. It was pathetic when pulling a forklift and trailer.
I bought a new 4 door f350 last year with an 8 ft bed on it. Weighs 10000lbs empty. Load my 36ft gooseneck flatbed trailer with a full load and it comes in at 41500. Feels really stable. Same wheelbase. And I don't have 12" of c channel hanging under my door for strength like my Chevy.
I bought a new 4 door f350 last year with an 8 ft bed on it. Weighs 10000lbs empty. Load my 36ft gooseneck flatbed trailer with a full load and it comes in at 41500. Feels really stable. Same wheelbase. And I don't have 12" of c channel hanging under my door for strength like my Chevy.
lol, i got in trouble...decided to lay low for a while...
i bet that chevy will shake dat *** like the tundra did in that ford ad...
poor diesel tundra fans
so? who cares? thats like saying not very many people buy mountain snowmachines so the manufactuers should just make garbage mountain sleds and only make good trail sleds...but its ok...because only a few people buy mountains sleds
yes...diesel tundras are made for comfort...instead of making a suspension they make a chassis suspension...its cheaper that way...and it makes it ride nice on the way over to walmart