2014 Snowcheck - E-start or no E-start?
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Well my car, truck, ATV, and even my lawn mower has ES. I have had several sleds with ES in the past. I am on my third Pro and none of them have ES. The next one won't either. I don't need it. It all comes down to personal preference. As far as resale, it may add $100 after two years. A few years ago there were two brand new 800 Dragon RMK's 155" (hold overs) on the showroom floor at the local dealer. One with ES and the other one without. The one with the ES was a $100 more.
Great thread, thanks. A lot of funny comments!!
Great thread, thanks. A lot of funny comments!!
So what is the best/lightest battery?
Where do you get it?
Where do you get it?
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had es on my 12.weight without battery was 11.4 lbs. balance of sled vastly improved.pulling over on bad side hill sucks. tried lithium/ion battery,cold killed it, stock battery holds down my air compressor ,complete starter system for sale. 350.00 plus shipping.
had es on my 12.weight without battery was 11.4 lbs. balance of sled vastly improved.pulling over on bad side hill sucks. tried lithium/ion battery,cold killed it, stock battery holds down my air compressor ,complete starter system for sale. 350.00 plus shipping.
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mtnryder
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I am with cateye. I am 64 and never had ES. My 11 Pro is fine without it but, have had rotator surgery on the left and now the right is torn. $1,000 add now and won't pay it. Ok with pull most of the time. I rode with a group one day with several ladies who got stuck too many times. Was nice to tap the starter and bump the sled out of holes while I was standing in deep powder. As for the extra weight, I would go on a brief diet and lose the pounds to offset. LOL
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seth25
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Just took the e start assembly off my 13. Everything including the battery weighs 21 lbs.
I have it for sale in the swap meet. $350 plus shipping. Only has 120 miles on it. Pm if interested.
21 Pounds...... Sounds correct.
I have not read every post here thoroughly but it has come up here on Snowest before that if you pull the fly wheel (starting gear?) off, it's recommended to get your clutch rebalanced.
Mine starts on 3rd pull when cold.
1st pull when warm.
It starts so eaily for me. Especially on Ethanol mode. When I have it on premium, when engine is warm it often starts on the second pull.
No need for electric start. But then again, I have no shoulder injuries or problems that might justify it for me.
1st pull when warm.
It starts so eaily for me. Especially on Ethanol mode. When I have it on premium, when engine is warm it often starts on the second pull.
No need for electric start. But then again, I have no shoulder injuries or problems that might justify it for me.
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littleanthony
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Bought someones snowcheck 163 came with ES, never had it before no health issues, now I would never order without. After a roll over it can be a pain in the *** to restart, not with ES. Watching my buddys pull thear sleds over, priceless!!!
I've rolled my 2013 over in deep powder to get unstuck 3 or 4 times this year. Never had a problem starting it. 1st pull.
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littleanthony
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My 11 was, haven't tried it on the 13 yet, next time I'll give it a try.
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BackCountryBob
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Hey, I resemble that remark--the old man (71) part. After 30 years riding/owning sleds I gave myself an ES birthday present this year and, like my first reverse sled, will never give up either one.
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Definitely some interesting perspectives on here. Here's my .02.
I was always one who bashed E-start agreeing with others that its more of an add on for your wife or g/f. However, after riding with Dan Adams last year my mind was changed. Dan had an E-start 600 155 that made those of us on our 800's look like little girls. I consider myself an experienced rider logging an average of 1800 miles a season mostly in the backcountry of BC and CO and was amazed with what Dan was doing on that sled. All the weight comments kill me lol. I am guessing that you could take the vast majority of riders on this forum and put them on a 300lb carbon fiber sled and the only thing they would benefit from is that it would be easier to get un stuck. Which makes me wonder: Is it the rider or the sled? I am going to say that in most cases it's the riders ability that limits them, not an extra 20lbs. Heck, I am sure most of us on here could cut a good 20lbs on our midsections and see way more performance than any aftermarket mod that takes 20lbs off your sled. With all that being said I ride a '12 Assault that DOES not have E-start simply because I feel that I am able bodied enough to start my sled and would rather spend the mullah on a set of Airframes, seat, clutching etc. I guess like others have said before it all comes down to personal preference but I would not let the weight debate hold you back on your decision.
Cheers,
JW
I was always one who bashed E-start agreeing with others that its more of an add on for your wife or g/f. However, after riding with Dan Adams last year my mind was changed. Dan had an E-start 600 155 that made those of us on our 800's look like little girls. I consider myself an experienced rider logging an average of 1800 miles a season mostly in the backcountry of BC and CO and was amazed with what Dan was doing on that sled. All the weight comments kill me lol. I am guessing that you could take the vast majority of riders on this forum and put them on a 300lb carbon fiber sled and the only thing they would benefit from is that it would be easier to get un stuck. Which makes me wonder: Is it the rider or the sled? I am going to say that in most cases it's the riders ability that limits them, not an extra 20lbs. Heck, I am sure most of us on here could cut a good 20lbs on our midsections and see way more performance than any aftermarket mod that takes 20lbs off your sled. With all that being said I ride a '12 Assault that DOES not have E-start simply because I feel that I am able bodied enough to start my sled and would rather spend the mullah on a set of Airframes, seat, clutching etc. I guess like others have said before it all comes down to personal preference but I would not let the weight debate hold you back on your decision.
Cheers,
JW
You could start an entire new forum over 600 v. 800. I ride a 2012 Pro 600 now and I call it "the little 600 that could". It is unbelievable how maneuverable and nimble it is. I am going to snowcheck an 800 just because I want to but man that 600 is absolutely amazing! And yes I have decided to go with E start.
Wow, if you people can't pull the rope 1-2 times, how the hell can you hold a sidehill??
This sled is just easy to start. 1-2 pulls, that's it. You should try starting my old Yamaha when it's cold outside
This sled is just easy to start. 1-2 pulls, that's it. You should try starting my old Yamaha when it's cold outside
First year riding I did a Dan Adams clinic. I asked Dan how I should spec out a Pro if I snow checked one. He was adamant about 2 things. 163" track and e start. I pushed him on both issues as EVERYBODY else I was asking about sleds was recommending 154" track and pull start. Track is another thread but his reasons for e start were; weight diff was 20lbs which he was positive no one could feel on the Pro, with e start you will rarely let your sled idle which wastes gas, can foul plugs and contributes to overheating, at the end of a long day you might have started a sled from 20 to 30 or more times which is a big drain on energy, pulling starting a sled is hard on your neck, shoulder and back, pull starting a sled in a precarious place can be tough ETC. I am really glad I listened especially since I use lightweight batteries so the total weight penalty is less than 10lbs. I am a pretty burly guy and ALL my sleds are pull start now and I get a ton of crap for it but MAN DO I LOVE MY E START.
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