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Boyko
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2 strokes complete standalone ecu for t-m8 and t-m1000
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I think it can be done, But can it be done before everyone goes to a direct injection with 500 psi injectors, to bad this wasn't started when the sleds first came out, seems like it will just be ready in time for a new platform to come of the production line, then again maybe he will get a call from one of the manufacturers for help. hoping for the best.
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supraturbo
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"""There are a few closed loop systems being tested (with other riders posting on them here) The most promising system in my opinion will be a closed loop system that builds it own map. I am hoping it will be on the market this season, if it works well and is tested for a season by a lot of rides, than, at that point you can say Piggybacks Rule.
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i'm sure you already know efi ecu's(vipec,autronic,motec etc.) all have autotune capability....it is working good but still not sharp as a well build 5 dimensions(input) map.
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i'm sure you already know efi ecu's(vipec,autronic,motec etc.) all have autotune capability....it is working good but still not sharp as a well build 5 dimensions(input) map.
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supraturbo
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we have worked on e-tec outboard motor for a few years and it is a very well known terrain for us(2 stroke direct injection), after M8 id done, it is the next one one the surgery table.
p.s.:i'm interested to buy an extra dynomite(land n sea) snowmobile dyno with eddy current absorber , i want to move faster with an extra dyno on the ecu's project. please send PM or email.if anybody read this?? i will post in the WTB section too.
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mynewuseddoo
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Boyco, to rebut your comments........
That’s funny, but your turbo Cummings is a diesel in a truck. Lol Cummins not Cummings
. And it has a TURBO which uses a MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR to relay information to an ECU. It can be done with different ecu's as well not just my Cummins. To say it can't be done is a rediculous statement. It is simply a measurement relayed to a computer for analysis.
Do you know of any efi 2-stroke sleds that has rolled out of the factory with a mass air sensor on it? If you look into this thread there are posts by some pretty sharp experienced tuners, are these some of the “experts” you are referring to. Don't know of any 2 stroke turbos to roll out of any factory but that may just be my misunderstanding here. I am refering more to the "my two cents" guys but not entirely. If the experts who are nay saying, but also who's tallents and hard work I respect, couldn't figure it out then maybe someone else can.
The problem is no one has else besides Supra has come on here saying how well this system works or what different environments it has been tested in.If you go back I believe Supra said he was working with a couple of turbo builders if I am not mistaken. Maybe between them just trying to keep some stuff under wraps for now...I don't know...
Time will tell if this project is feasible or not. I fully agree and I am sure it has been said countless times before about other impossible projects.
Personally I think it is way to involving for a industry that changes this quickly and because this is on a 2-stroke it is extremely involving, the margin for error is just to tight.Has been said before and look where we are now. Initially way too involving maybe but after the hurdles have been jumped then it seems to be smooth sailing as things progress. Need to enter the unknown to find out what is in there, that's how it works
There are a few closed loop systems being tested (with other riders posting on them here) The most promising system in my opinion will be a closed loop system that builds it own map. I am hoping it will be on the market this season, if it works well and is tested for a season by a lot of rides, than, at that point you can say Piggybacks Rule.I fully agree with this also, the proof is in the pudding. If I was and expert tunner in this field I wouldn't be chirping at how this will never work. I would have the attitude of hey bud I've been down this road and ran into these obstacles. Maybe you are the guy to figure this stuff out. If you can't figure something out then maybe I already have. Hell, we put people in space and apparently a stand alone ecu is a rediculous notion for a two stroke motor, r ya kiddin me?
Did you know medical experts back in the day literally said the human body couldn't survive travleing at 100 MPH! Now we have MRI machines....crazy.
That’s funny, but your turbo Cummings is a diesel in a truck. Lol Cummins not Cummings
. And it has a TURBO which uses a MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR to relay information to an ECU. It can be done with different ecu's as well not just my Cummins. To say it can't be done is a rediculous statement. It is simply a measurement relayed to a computer for analysis.Do you know of any efi 2-stroke sleds that has rolled out of the factory with a mass air sensor on it? If you look into this thread there are posts by some pretty sharp experienced tuners, are these some of the “experts” you are referring to. Don't know of any 2 stroke turbos to roll out of any factory but that may just be my misunderstanding here. I am refering more to the "my two cents" guys but not entirely. If the experts who are nay saying, but also who's tallents and hard work I respect, couldn't figure it out then maybe someone else can.
The problem is no one has else besides Supra has come on here saying how well this system works or what different environments it has been tested in.If you go back I believe Supra said he was working with a couple of turbo builders if I am not mistaken. Maybe between them just trying to keep some stuff under wraps for now...I don't know...
Time will tell if this project is feasible or not. I fully agree and I am sure it has been said countless times before about other impossible projects.
Personally I think it is way to involving for a industry that changes this quickly and because this is on a 2-stroke it is extremely involving, the margin for error is just to tight.Has been said before and look where we are now. Initially way too involving maybe but after the hurdles have been jumped then it seems to be smooth sailing as things progress. Need to enter the unknown to find out what is in there, that's how it works
There are a few closed loop systems being tested (with other riders posting on them here) The most promising system in my opinion will be a closed loop system that builds it own map. I am hoping it will be on the market this season, if it works well and is tested for a season by a lot of rides, than, at that point you can say Piggybacks Rule.I fully agree with this also, the proof is in the pudding. If I was and expert tunner in this field I wouldn't be chirping at how this will never work. I would have the attitude of hey bud I've been down this road and ran into these obstacles. Maybe you are the guy to figure this stuff out. If you can't figure something out then maybe I already have. Hell, we put people in space and apparently a stand alone ecu is a rediculous notion for a two stroke motor, r ya kiddin me?
Did you know medical experts back in the day literally said the human body couldn't survive travleing at 100 MPH! Now we have MRI machines....crazy.
we are sending prototype ecu back to manufacturer so they can adjust a few parameters, will have full production ecu starting in 3 weeks.....keep looking!
Anyone running one of these ECU's yet?
I have been searching the net and have yet to find any info or vids.
My turbo projects are just about done and was thinking about having this on my builds...
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Vi-PEC Powersports
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arctic cat ECU
we are now done with the polaris ECU and are now marketing them across scandinavia, north america, russia and have sold already close to 100 units. This is taking us on the 800cc arctic cat project and we have already started on this one and will be ready soon....probably before the end of this season. arctic cat is using kokusan denki batteryless E.F.I. (same as polaris) wich is , in most aspect, pretty cmuch the same as Poo. will let you guys know when ready but you can be 100% sure we are coming with this plugin ecu soon.....sooner than you all think!!!
we are now done with the polaris ECU and are now marketing them across scandinavia, north america, russia and have sold already close to 100 units. This is taking us on the 800cc arctic cat project and we have already started on this one and will be ready soon....probably before the end of this season. arctic cat is using kokusan denki batteryless E.F.I. (same as polaris) wich is , in most aspect, pretty cmuch the same as Poo. will let you guys know when ready but you can be 100% sure we are coming with this plugin ecu soon.....sooner than you all think!!!
Please make a ecu for the 1000!
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Vi-PEC Powersports
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custom fitted from the 800cc ECU is possible!!same charging system for both, not same pinout on the oem harness ....a bit of welding to do but defenitely possible.
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Cody Phillips Racing
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I'm definitely looking forward to doing some R&D for the Arctic Cat guys. I'll be working with VI-PEC North America and have over 10 years of stand alone tuning experience. I run a Vipec on my 2012 RMK with a turbo and I can tell you the ECU works awesome. It's so nice to be able to run an ECU without a battery install, or worrying about mounting, operating temperatures, etc. It's a PNP unit and sealed very well and best of all mounts in the stock location. It also much nicer to be able to run your choice of sensors, wideband, and boost solenoid to have the ecu control all these and trim the fuel/ignition however you see fit. The possibilities are nearly limitless.
I have years of experience across MoTeC, AEM, FAST, HP Tuners, EFI-Live, VIPEC, Megasquirt, etc. etc. and I can tell you the Vipec software is one of the easiest to use as far as software it comes with alot of capabilities. I will be working hard to get some base mapping as soon as the ECU is in my hands. I know Sebastian and his team in Montreal are working hard to get this ECU out for this year's riding season. Hopefully we can get something by the end of October.
I have years of experience across MoTeC, AEM, FAST, HP Tuners, EFI-Live, VIPEC, Megasquirt, etc. etc. and I can tell you the Vipec software is one of the easiest to use as far as software it comes with alot of capabilities. I will be working hard to get some base mapping as soon as the ECU is in my hands. I know Sebastian and his team in Montreal are working hard to get this ECU out for this year's riding season. Hopefully we can get something by the end of October.
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Vi-PEC Powersports
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standalone ECU
guys, just want to let you know the M8 ECU (arctic cat 800cc) is finished and will be available in limited quantity (100 units) for this year. Same for the 1100 turbo....can't wait to jump on the snow with our turbo sled!! tired of dyno testing!!! The ecu has all the options you guys dreaming of: launch control,anti lag,staged injection,multiple maps,up to 6d mapping,aux outputs,map sensor in the ECU(different then polaris ECU),ect...
guys, just want to let you know the M8 ECU (arctic cat 800cc) is finished and will be available in limited quantity (100 units) for this year. Same for the 1100 turbo....can't wait to jump on the snow with our turbo sled!! tired of dyno testing!!! The ecu has all the options you guys dreaming of: launch control,anti lag,staged injection,multiple maps,up to 6d mapping,aux outputs,map sensor in the ECU(different then polaris ECU),ect...
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Vi-PEC Powersports
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same as all our snowmobile ECU, wich is 2195$ retail. Push turbo is including the ECU in both of his arctic cat turbo kit(check is web page).
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Vi-PEC Powersports
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little dyno pull.....the wait is over, the M* ecu will be here soon!
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