165 RMK Boost not playful enough, suggestions

[hokiruu]

take preload out of rear spring
reduce rear damping
I adjust center shock/front track shock relatively opposite accordingly (like a seesaw)
Add front ski shock preload if it’s not much (guessing based on your weight/size)
Move feet farther back
Ride brake a little before seeking lift then telease like a clutch

Unweight and maybe pull back on bars a little (make sure risers are parallel to steering post)

Use more throttle

Beyond that, you’re looking at considering Khaos type rails, altered geometry front spindles

 

[Mr. Redrock]

I’ve played with all of that, I think they have the factory Velocity shocks sprung and valving way off from the factory. I would like to try a standard walker clicker shock to verify. I ordered new fox shocks but they did not come in stock like they thought

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

I’ve played with all of that, I think they have the factory Velocity shocks sprung and valving way off from the factory. I would like to try a standard walker clicker shock to verify. I ordered new fox shocks but they did not come in stock like they thought

My brother has a 165 boost with velocity shocks.

He swapped on a longer FTS eyelet and Khaos limiter strap.

Handles great now.

 

[damx]

I also did the longer eyelet, limiter strap and removed the sway bar. Feels alot lighter now, and probably 50% less steering effort

 

[idahosledder]

Where did you get the shock extension?
Raptor told me they didn't have one for the matryx.
Had anyone put a kaos limiter on with the stock shock? Or would the shock just max out and blow the seals?

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[Sheetmetalfab]

Where did you get the shock extension?
Raptor told me they didn't have one for the matryx.
Had anyone put a kaos limiter on with the stock shock? Or would the shock just max out and blow the seals?

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It was a raptor eyelet off my old sled.
Drilled and tapped to fit the velocity FTS.

Lots of the older WE assault shocks had long eyelets.

 

[Tigerlily]

Would it work to put the front mounting bolts in the lower hole?

 

[hokiruu]

In that case, yes Aftermarket shocks may help in general , but may not give you the major change in characteristics you are looking for.

I yhink you may need different rails smd spindles. I’d start with the spindles.

If the Fox unavailability is an issue there are other great options.

Have Carls revalve the Velocities or other shocks


I have a 22 Khaos non boost 165 and just ordered Exit X2 and X1, are cheaper than Fox 1.5s anyway and have rebound adjustment. I also bought Ice Age Elevate spindles and Zbroz arms to replace my Trenchers arms.

I’ll let you know how the difference feels

 

[idahosledder]

I decided I'm going to drop the suspension to the lower hole and try that.
I can see where it may hurt approach angle a bit but it has to help ski pressure.
Besides, free!
As soon as I get past this COVID crap!

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[MG1]

I also did the longer eyelet, limiter strap and removed the sway bar. Feels alot lighter now, and probably 50% less steering effort

Did the eyelet for the Raptor FTS thread onto the velocity unit? Or did you have to machine one out as well?


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[damx]

Raptor makes or did make a 1/2" and 5/8" eyelet.

 

[cortez]

I also did the longer eyelet, limiter strap and removed the sway bar. Feels alot lighter now, and probably 50% less steering effort

Forgive my ignorance on the matter but how do you change shock length via eyelets? Would love to try this setup on mine.


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[MG1]

Ya and I think they still do- my understanding is the 5/8” version is for their shock..at least today I believe. Either way, sounds like it worked for you, which is good.

The spring retainer is different than the axys- velocity eyelet has a lip that the retainer sits against.

Sheetmetalfab- I have the same 1/2” eyelet for an axys…did your brother have to machine a lip into the eyelet like the velocity eyelet? Or is the raptor eyelet diameter the same as the velocity inner retainer lip?

Planning to buy shocks next season, so kind of determined to try this to decide on FTS length.


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[MG1]

Forgive my ignorance on the matter but how do you change shock length via eyelets? Would love to try this setup on mine.


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Raptor makes an FTS eyelet that’s about 1” longer than stock…effectively making the length of the shock longer, and allowing the longer limiter strap to work without over extending the shock.


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[Sheetmetalfab]

Raptor makes an FTS eyelet that’s about 1” longer than stock…effectively making the length of the shock longer, and allowing the longer limiter strap to work without over extending the shock.


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It’s actually about 5/16” longer.

1” longer would be a disaster.

 

[MG1]

Oh ok, that was my perception from conversation with Raptor..to accommodate the strap length. May have misunderstood the eyelet length. Thanks


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[cortez]

It’s actually about 5/16” longer.

1” longer would be a disaster.

Mind sharing a photo of it installed? I’ve looked at the kits and the skid and somehow still can’t figure out how it adds length to the FTS. [emoji2957]
I know it works, just want to understand the kit / configuration as it relates to the eyelet


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[Sheetmetalfab]

Mind sharing a photo of it installed? I’ve looked at the kits and the skid and somehow still can’t figure out how it adds length to the FTS. [emoji2957]
I know it works, just want to understand the kit / configuration as it relates to the eyelet


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So you are asking how an eyelet that is 5/16” longer makes the FTS longer?

Just read that slowly again ?

 

[cortez]

So you are asking how an eyelet that is 5/16” longer makes the FTS longer?

Just read that slowly again [emoji23]

Trust me, I know how stupid it sounds.

I just can’t picture how an internal eyelet bushing adjustment adds length - which is why I know that’s not the configuration and I’d like to just see it. I have the ability to make the pieces just need to see the setup.

Is it a pin through existing eyelet with extension piece and new eyelet / bore beyond end of the actual shock? That’s the only way I can see adding 5/16” of length as there isn’t enough room for an eccentric bushing to add that much length..


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[hamlin]

It’s not an internal part. It threads onto the end of the shock rod, effectively making it longer .