2022 Pro Matryx Slash 165 khaos hybrid? A little confused Khaos vs. Pro Matryx... looking for input

[Ultramagnus]

Talking with ice age. The rails are only 3% of what makes a khaos act the way it does. I did everything but the rails and i noticed a difference, but I also added aftermarket shocks which gave me more adjustments Tighten up your front track shock and loosen the rear shock.
Also make sure your front track shock is a khaos shock

I understand what you mean about the rails. What I mean is that with the pro rails and the OEM Khaos limiter strap, the limiter strap is tight just sitting on the ground. More of a geometry thing then rail tip up / angle of attack.

I think with the Khaos rails the limiter strap is less taught. I had the shock on the skid after swapping in the takeoff Khaos shocks before I installed the limiter strap. I was worried about the shock topping out. I made a measurement from the top suspension mount point to the rail at a fixed point.

After I installed the OEM limiter strap the same measurement was over 1/2” shorter. So I feel the combo of OEM Khaos shocks and Limiter strap with Pro rails won’t give you the full extension of the Khaos shock. I think an aftermarket/ longer limiter strap is what is required to give the full effect without having Khaos rails.

 

[Ultramagnus]

I would listen to Tony (TRS) above. You're probably not getting full Khaos effect because you didn't change your RTS spring and it's too stiff to get the transfer you're looking for.

Take off Khaos shocks with Khaos springs. I’ve had 2 21 Khaos Axys I owned. Those sleds had far more transfer. It was way easier to get the ski’s up.

Like I said in my post above. I think the combo with factory Khaos shocks and limiter strap with Pro RMK rails doesn’t give full shock extension. A longer limiter strap is required.

 

[Ultrasauras]

Drill new holes in your current limiter strap to get the desired length you are looking for

 

[Ultramagnus]

Drill new holes in your current limiter strap to get the desired length you are looking for

You can’t if you use the factory one. No room left to extend and keep it doubled up and leave enough edge distance to trust it.

 

[Teth-Air]

I understand what you mean about the rails. What I mean is that with the pro rails and the OEM Khaos limiter strap, the limiter strap is tight just sitting on the ground. More of a geometry thing then rail tip up / angle of attack.

I think with the Khaos rails the limiter strap is less taught. I had the shock on the skid after swapping in the takeoff Khaos shocks before I installed the limiter strap. I was worried about the shock topping out. I made a measurement from the top suspension mount point to the rail at a fixed point.

After I installed the OEM limiter strap the same measurement was over 1/2” shorter. So I feel the combo of OEM Khaos shocks and Limiter strap with Pro rails won’t give you the full extension of the Khaos shock. I think an aftermarket/ longer limiter strap is what is required to give the full effect without having Khaos rails.

Just drill a new hole in your limiter strap where you think it should be to add the extra length. I have no idea why guys buy new when they have a perfectly good strap. I have done this many times over the years.

 

[ski-douche]

Talking with ice age. The rails are only 3% of what makes a khaos act the way it does. I did everything but the rails and i noticed a difference, but I also added aftermarket shocks which gave me more adjustments Tighten up your front track shock and loosen the rear shock.
Also make sure your front track shock is a khaos shock

When I have talked to them it was 30% - maybe you misheard them?

 

[wonderxc600]

When I have talked to them it was 30% - maybe you misheard them?

From what I've heard, it doesn't make that big of a difference. When I did everything but the rails on my 163. I definitely noticed a difference. With fox shocks and the limiter strap. Shocks, or revalve factory helps as well. I'm sure the rails help. Even if it's 10% thats really not that much