Great effort in utv market by Yamaha but still not a game changer. All reviews still sway toward rzr 1000 turbo especially in handling and susupension.
An actual new 2 Stroke Yamaha Snowmobile Engine (UPDATED)
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I hate to come in here and throw facts around, when I dont really know the facts.... But the Pro RMK out sold every other sled model for a year... or 3 in 2011-2013, I don't remember which year, or if it was actually all 3 years in a row... point being mountain sleds have the potential to be where the money is at.
Statistically I have no idea where numbers are for parts, gear, accesories, etc between what trail riders spend and what mountain riders spend, but I think it would be a safe bet to say mountain riders spend exponentially more on all the above. And lets not forget all the money mountain riders spend driving to their destination, and the lodging and food there and along the way.
I realize that sled registration numbers are wayyyyy higher in the midwest, north, and northeast, but I would definitely think that the "big money" is in the mountain segment, if you can own it... And yammi just doesnt get that because of how tiny of a player they have been in it for the last 10 years.
I could be wrong but after listening to these guys. It sounds to me like it is a longer then a year or two agreement.
http://www.supertraxmag.com/article.asp?nid=3048
http://www.supertraxmag.com/article.asp?nid=3048
Yup.
The new engine in the teaser video sounds like a crossplane engine, like what they have in their R1 engine and FZ-09 engine.
That kind of info is very misleading. It depends how each manufacturer counts and reports "most sold model". My point being is standard RMK counted same as Pro RMK? Is a Polaris Rush counted same as Polaris Rush LE, or Polaris Rush LE Switchback? There are so many variations to each model. The Pro RMK model may very well have sold more than any SPECIFIC sled model but keep in mind the amount of trail models available compare to mountain sleds. Depending on the brand, trail sleds out number mountain sleds offered over 3:1. Its no wonder a mountain sled would have highest numbers but that doesn't mean more mountain sleds were sold than shorty's.
Point isnt whether the info is misleading or not. Its that Yamaha needs to step up put out a sled thats competitive in the 2 stroke 800 line up, there is alot of money to be made there, and they act like there isnt due to pride or whatever it is that keeps them from building a two stroke. I dont get it. The mountain sled industry is huge and growing. The dealers around where I am at, which is eastern south dakota, dont hardly hardly sell short tracks anymore, they maybe get 1 or 2 to put on the showroom floor and end up giving them away part way through the year. And we are 10 hours from any decent mountain riding. Much different than 10 years ago when all the dealer around here sold was short tracks. I am hoping things will change after the merger with cat.
But really the only reason I ever wanted a 2 stroke yamaha mountain sled was for another chassis choice. I could care less about the motor, all the current 800s are 155-165 hp and run good. Now with the cat merger I dont think we will ever see a new chassis from Yamaha, but rather a Cat chassis with a Yamaha motor IF they were to ever come back with a 2 stroke.
I have been asking about that for 2 years now..Lots of hp and reliable and lighter than a typical motor............02
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrqa-j5eho
They seem to be pretty confident they have a game changer coming.
They seem to be pretty confident they have a game changer coming.
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I give up, snowest still hasn't mentioned or showed anything about the new Yamaha coming out. Chris what's going on, let see snowest step up and report on this.
I give up, snowest still hasn't mentioned or showed anything about the new Yamaha coming out. Chris what's going on, let see snowest step up and report on this.
Maybe a trail version only for 2017 - just like when the first viper came out? Lack of interest by SW until they make it a "mountain sled" by slapping a long track and some bar risers on it for 2018
Well one thing is certain AC's deal with Suzuki is coming to an end. So somebody is gonna be building their next 2 stroke, doesn't take a genius to figure it will be Yami. Sure this deal was made years ago when they partnered together.
2017 Yamaha Snowmobiles: Snowdust
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Cat just built a whole new engine facility to manufacture their new 600 ctec engine. I would like to see a Yamaha 800 2 stroke but I doubt cat will need it because I'm sure they are making or have made their 800 ctec engine. Who knows for sure tho. It definitely is fun talking about all this tho.
They are definitely going to launch a new sled (if it is in fact a new sled) in the trail market first. Then next year we will see it long tracked and deemed a "mountain" sled.
Exciting to see at least SOMETHING from Yamaha in an otherwise dull and uneventful mountain segment player.
Someone mentioned crossplane engine. It does sound very similar to the exhaust note of my FZ-09. I think this is more than just a coincidence! The FZ-09 engine is amazing!
Exciting to see at least SOMETHING from Yamaha in an otherwise dull and uneventful mountain segment player.
Someone mentioned crossplane engine. It does sound very similar to the exhaust note of my FZ-09. I think this is more than just a coincidence! The FZ-09 engine is amazing!
Yeah that engine is an awesome engine! It doesn't make a ton of power tho is the only thing. I think 80-90 hp is all that 950 triple makes. I think it sounds more like the 4 banger R1 motor.
115 horsepower and 65lb-ft. The power delivery is what really impresses me.
+1 for the R1 variant, I just have no real world experience with that engine.
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