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ZBROZ 36" REVIEW

I got a set with the underside reinforced, even though they protested that it wasn't necessary. I bent several that weren't. I would not buy them unless they agree to reinforce them.

I still managed to break one even with the extra brace the other day. It was a hard hit and would have bent any A arm IMO, even broke the upper ball joint, no damage to the bulkhead or tunnel. I believe this is the right balance of strength vs fuse to avoid damage to the sled.

Do you have a picture of this extra reinforcement? I've been happy so far with the strength of my 36" arms but just am curious to see this extra reinforcement. On the ones you have bent have they all bent in the same place? Also just curious to see where yours have bent.
 
What do you have for air pressure in the floats?

I don't remember.

Do you have a picture of this extra reinforcement? I've been happy so far with the strength of my 36" arms but just am curious to see this extra reinforcement. On the ones you have bent have they all bent in the same place? Also just curious to see where yours have bent.

Yes, they all bend in exactly the same place. The 1 1/2" rectangular piece right next to the ball joint. They simply weld on a small extra piece on the bottom.
 
With all the posts about the 36" arms I pulled the trigger and ordered some Z-bros. (bent a stock arm last season).
Bought them from Next Level out of Colorado Springs, Boston Racing on here. They have the hammer tone and a great price.
Easy install at the time I also replaced the bushings with bpark's delrin bushings also a good improvement, waiting for the spindles to dry and then do the alignment.

Can' wait for the snow to fall.

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I gotta say i love my 36" setup!
Wish Polaris could understand and do something similar.
Just gotta make the panels more narrow!:face-icon-small-coo

polaris knows very well what they are doing with a snowmachine...keep in mind lots of mountain guys have to go on trails up to the deep snow, and aswell as lots of wannabe's in the east and midwest are on trails...and the most important...if someone gets hurt from an uncontrollable sled polaris can get sued
 
If you are implying that a 36" stance is remotely uncontrollable, well that's just ridiculous. I along with other pro riders have been using these arms since they came out and won't go back.

And if you want to talk about Polaris getting sued, they have a better chance of that with their arms that are coming apart and have already hurt people. So, you claiming that they know very well is just BS.
 
If you are implying that a 36" stance is remotely uncontrollable, well that's just ridiculous. I along with other pro riders have been using these arms since they came out and won't go back.

And if you want to talk about Polaris getting sued, they have a better chance of that with their arms that are coming apart and have already hurt people. So, you claiming that they know very well is just BS.

gosh you people are retarded

im not saying a 36 inch stance sled is uncontrollable for me...but for others it may be...and yeah you have slim chances of winning a case against polaris...and thats the way they keep it...

and you saying proffesional engineers knowing how to build things is BS?...well...as stated above...retarded :crazy:
 
gosh you people are retarded

im not saying a 36 inch stance sled is uncontrollable for me...but for others it may be...and yeah you have slim chances of winning a case against polaris...and thats the way they keep it...

and you saying proffesional engineers knowing how to build things is BS?...well...as stated above...retarded :crazy:

LMAO, you're going to defend Polaris engineers?

900's
2008-2010 800 motors
2013 A arms
2013 drive shafts

How many more examples of these so called professionals do you want to defend?
 
LMAO, you're going to defend Polaris engineers?

900's
2008-2010 800 motors
2013 A arms
2013 drive shafts

How many more examples of these so called professionals do you want to defend?

you are correct...college degrees...years of experience...proffesional...who needs all that mathy stuff...a bunch of guys on a website could build much better machines...polaris should fire all their engineers and throw away their designs of which they had 50 years of experience with

we dont need them hillbillies makin our sleds now do we?

900's...bean counters being cheap...the engineers want to build a superior product everytime...costs and manufacturing dont allow that...

800's...bean counters being cheap again...along with fitting a big displacement motor into a small block

2013 a arms...mass manufactuered product

2013 shafts...mass manufactuered product

do you really think the engineers do not know what they are doing? im telling you...they know exactly everything when it comes to building a sled...i dont know what you would have to be smoking if you think you can go up to a polaris engineer and ask did you know 36 inch stance makes a mountain sled handle better from a 40 inch stance and have the engineer say no...i did not know that
 
Still making excuses for them. They should know about mass production and the bean counters and engineer the parts taking all factors into consideration, not be ignorant of them.

Edit; As far as giving them a pass on mass produced parts, so is almost everything we buy! So, once again, giving them a pass is BS.
 
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Still making excuses for them. They should know about mass production and the bean counters and engineer the parts taking all factors into consideration, not be ignorant of them.

Edit; As far as giving them a pass on mass produced parts, so is almost everything we buy! So, once again, giving them a pass is BS.

wow...

a lot of things are being asked of them that are pretty much not possible...make a high hp reliable motor for as cheap as x amount and could still work when put together sloppy while being crammed into a block x amount small ...ohhh and after that we cant run it rich on fuel or oil because it will be too dirty of an engine for the enviroment

can anyone make that? simple answer is no...it can be made...maybe if alloy pistons were used...but alloy is expensive and dulls tools very easy which will drive up costs...they do everything for a reason...remember...every manufactuered product is a compromise to every individual user...they are made for a broad markey use...every sled...every engine...
 
Funny, Suzuki managed to do it. The bean counter excuse is BS, as well. They spent a crap load more money fixing down sleds, than properly engineered and manufactured would have cost in the first place. You can defend them all you want, I'm done arguing with you, you do the same crap all over this forum.
 
Funny, Suzuki managed to do it. The bean counter excuse is BS, as well. They spent a crap load more money fixing down sleds, than properly engineered and manufactured would have cost in the first place. You can defend them all you want, I'm done arguing with you, you do the same crap all over this forum.

yeah...the top dogs at polaris arn't very smart...ford used 2 less threads per spark plug hole on their 5.4 and it saved them 3 dollars per 100 thousand trucks...they spent way more fixing it than they saved

suzuki didnt manage to build an engine as small as the polaris block, also suzuki doesnt have cheapo's running the company and lets the engineers build what they want to build
 
you are correct...college degrees...years of experience...proffesional...who needs all that mathy stuff...a bunch of guys on a website could build much better machines...polaris should fire all their engineers and throw away their designs of which they had 50 years of experience with

we dont need them hillbillies makin our sleds now do we?

you're awfully confident for a guy that spelled professional incorrectly while trying to mock someone for being unprofessional.

you're also naive to assume that many of the people on this forum are not licensed engineers themselves.



back on topic; how do you guys like the 36" stance in late season riding? jumping? i rode it in january when the snow was fairly soft.... ideal conditions busting through the trees but in the spring snow jumping around i could see it being somewhat sketchy compared to the stock stance.
 
you're awfully confident for a guy that spelled professional incorrectly while trying to mock someone for being unprofessional.

you're also naive to assume that many of the people on this forum are not licensed engineers themselves.



back on topic; how do you guys like the 36" stance in late season riding? jumping? i rode it in january when the snow was fairly soft.... ideal conditions busting through the trees but in the spring snow jumping around i could see it being somewhat sketchy compared to the stock stance.

muhhh bad
 
To me, the stance just makes it that much better when the snow is less than ideal. The other variable is you do have the ability to move the skis back out to what the stock narrow ski position is.
 
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....................how do you guys like the 36" stance in late season riding? jumping? i rode it in january when the snow was fairly soft.... ideal conditions busting through the trees but in the spring snow jumping around i could see it being somewhat sketchy compared to the stock stance.

I covered my bases in that regard and have a few 36", 38.5", 41"? Maybe 43"? Anyway as easy as they are to change, see what the weather is like and pick your width, within about 30 minutes your ready to rock whatever width you want. I've only ridden the wide stance to date but have purchased two of the 36's over the summer based on forum feedback.
 
Funny, Suzuki managed to do it. The bean counter excuse is BS, as well. They spent a crap load more money fixing down sleds, than properly engineered and manufactured would have cost in the first place. You can defend them all you want, I'm done arguing with you, you do the same crap all over this forum.

It is not a clean burning engine like the CFI or Etec. It does not make EPA requirements.
 
Lets all take a chill pill and get back on topic :argue: discussion.
Have a good day.:face-icon-small-hap
 
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