You just have to shake your head.

[Mafesto]

heres the deal ..Farmers weren't gettin squat for their efforts .....ethanol paid more ..

farmers start producin corn and canola get paid more ..now there aint enough grub to feed us ...just wait about 8 months ...flour is already triple ! just in the last month

does this not concern anybody ?????

I feel alot better about paying too much for food than paying too much for fuel!

 

[sldgy]

I feel alot better about paying too much for food than paying too much for fuel!

and look who gets the $, farmer vs. CEO!

 

[dragon12]

and look who gets the $, farmer vs. CEO!

I'd rather it go to the hard working AMERICAN farmer than the Middle Eastern terrorist!

 

[sldgy]

I'd rather it go to the hard working AMERICAN farmer than the Middle Eastern terrorist!

My point exactly (is there a difference between a oil company ceo and a terrorist?)

 

[24footjet]

Cmantle... backpeddle.... backpeddle... deny....deny.... if you say you are right long enough and loud enough, it's got to be true right?

Ruffryder same thing... I just laugh...

and somebody said it right... it used to be global warming, now it's climate change... whatever... junk science for select people to make billions. And all you rats that fell for it, shame shame.

 

[jimmy buffet]

buy gas from bp (british petrollium) its from the us, citco is venz. rest are middle east. many be others but thats the big ones. So i heard.

 

[ruffryder]

We (the US) are only producing about 40% of what we can. Farmers are paid to leave fields unplanted. Something to do with field viability or something. Not my thing, don't really know.

I think it is due to sustainable farming (oh no, did I use a greenie word?). If you farm land enough, eventually the nutrients in the ground get diminished and the ground is no longer as productive as it use to be. Wasn't this part of the problem back in the dust bowl times? Well besides the drought too.

 

[ruffryder]

buy gas from bp (british petrollium) its from the us, citco is venz. rest are middle east. many be others but thats the big ones. So i heard.

This comes to mind.

 

[ruffryder]

and somebody said it right... it used to be global warming, now it's climate change... whatever... junk science for select people to make billions. And all you rats that fell for it, shame shame.

I think the big picture is that people are realizing that the world is in a state of change. Right now there is a tremendous amount of knowledge/learning going on about how the world changes, though more work still needs to go into the why (I personally like the sun spots theory). There has also been a shift from the mantra that the world is here for humans to use up, to the realization that the world is a finite resource and the present growth model of our societies is not everlasting, it has bounds. Just something to think about, or to blast it away as liberal enviro-wacho-democratic bs.

 

[cmantle1]

Cmantle... backpeddle.... backpeddle... deny....deny.... if you say you are right long enough and loud enough, it's got to be true right?

Ruffryder same thing... I just laugh...

and somebody said it right... it used to be global warming, now it's climate change... whatever... junk science for select people to make billions. And all you rats that fell for it, shame shame.

Well your religion has said its right for a long time, and you believe it to be true....

I dont see much of a difference.

And just curious are you a scientist or researcher of some kind regarding the climate? If not, then im not really gonna count you as a credible resource when calling it "junk science"...

 

[crestview]

I feel that corn ethanol is not the way to go. The only advantage for myself is the distillers (a by product from ethanol that can be fed to cattle). Now if America wants to go the green route and keep people happy we should import ethanol from brazil because they make it out of sugar cane. It is much more efficiant conversion ratio than corn. Just my .02.