yeti or timbersled

[RACINSTATION]

I will say this. I have 2 customers that have Yetis and we ride with guys that have Camso and Timbersled kits. Both of these guys just snowchecked 2018 Timbersleds. The one guy told me yesterday, "Everytime I ride I break a bolt or have to fix something, and the Timbersled guys never have to do anything."

I think they all have their benefits, but for me the Timbersled kit is the best overall package right now. I have ridden the Yeti and the Camso.

 

[philsummers21]

I don't believe it's all the track.


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[simbatheking]

You ever ran a yeti against a camso?


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My friend has one and likes the trail manners a lot. It's the heaviest kit but has a good track. The yeti ss will have the same track next year according to rumour. Yeti staff told me they will release pics in a month or so. I haven't drag raced him or anything but u can really feel the weight difference. Any kit will get u around but if u ride aggressive technical stuff that's when u will notice the difference

 

[philsummers21]

Ride nothing but technical stuff and last year the camso was night and day better then all the timbersleds ST & LT as well as the cmx kit. Wasn't even close to how well the camso would get up on top of the snow and stay there.


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[simbatheking]

Ride nothing but technical stuff and last year the camso was night and day better then all the timbersleds ST & LT as well as the cmx kit. Wasn't even close to how well the camso would get up on top of the snow and stay there.


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I agree it gets up on snow well and that it has a good track. Here is a video snow guys might like for comparison. http://www.vernonsnowmx.com/tag/timbersled-vs-yeti/

 

[chumbilly1]

Only thing I broke on my Yeti was the front edge of tunnel. Totally my fault. High centered on a tree and highsided. small tree caught between the footpeg and tunnel and leverage and gravity did the rest. I have seen plenty of TS kits come apart. It will all shake out next winter! I do know that I enjoy riding any snowbike, but the Yeti has impressed the $hit out of me!

 

[simbatheking]

I will say this. I have 2 customers that have Yetis and we ride with guys that have Camso and Timbersled kits. Both of these guys just snowchecked 2018 Timbersleds. The one guy told me yesterday, "Everytime I ride I break a bolt or have to fix something, and the Timbersled guys never have to do anything."

I think they all have their benefits, but for me the Timbersled kit is the best overall package right now. I have ridden the Yeti and the Camso.

Never heard of anyone ever breaking the titanium bolts but this is coming from a ts dealer

 

[chumbilly1]

Never heard of anyone ever breaking the titanium bolts but this is coming from a ts dealer

Racin station is a good outfit, definate asset to the sport. But, yeah those Ti bolts are tuff as Hell. Smell like gunpowder when you break em loose the first time, and still never stripped one, or broke one. I check my belt and bolts every ride and honestly the belt stretch stopped after about ride 4 and have never found a loose bolt. Knock on wood! And I'm running the old belts still. Too cheap to throw good components before I see a solid reason, I guess.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

For reference a high grade titanium bolt is between a grade 5 and grade 8 steel bolt for strength. (Probably around grade 6)

I tend to go stainless for anything with higher stress. (304 ss is around grade 9)

I've seen ti bolts break.... not on a yeti but just in general.

Fwiw

 

[chumbilly1]

I am going to start a beachside treatment facility for all of us. Its all inclusive, with beautiful women and booze. no snowbikes , exotic fuels, or keyboards. Who is ready to face their problem?

 

[RACINSTATION]

Never heard of anyone ever breaking the titanium bolts but this is coming from a ts dealer

Funny you should say this......I carry four 8x1.25mm bolts in my tool box and have handed them out to Yeti guys breaking cross shaft bolts (titanium) all year.

Don't get me wrong......I think the Yeti is a work of art, it is just the fact that you could buy a newer bike AND Timbersled for the same price. At the end of the day, I really like this sport and I am all for forward progress by any of the manufacturers.

 

[chumbilly1]

But, how many course thread standard grade 8 TS bolts do you carry? I lost the longer suspension mount bolts and the sidepanel to subframe bolts semi-regularily when I rode TS. We will address these issues at my new treatment facility. I just need to come up with a catchy name that insurance companies can support.

Honestly though. The tetons do attract a special group of rippers. Bet you have seen alot of broken $hit. Nothing parents credit card can't fix! All respect intended. Got my first real taste of mtn sleds in Jackson, Victor, and Driggs.

 

[LoudHandle]

Laughable a SS bolt rating a 9!

For reference a high grade titanium bolt is between a grade 5 and grade 8 steel bolt for strength. (Probably around grade 6)

I tend to go stainless for anything with higher stress. (304 ss is around grade 9)

I've seen ti bolts break.... not on a yeti but just in general.

Fwiw

You are delusional if you think any normal hardware store stainless bolt would rate above a grade five. The exception being Super Duplex (but you're not going to find any of those at the hardware store) then you may get a grade nine for ten rating. The only reason the Stainless bolts may survive is they are soft enough to bend and stretch without breaking.

 

[skidooboy]

ti is light but, it is brittle and will snap, break fairly easy. Ski

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

You are delusional if you think any normal hardware store stainless bolt would rate above a grade five. The exception being Super Duplex (but you're not going to find any of those at the hardware store) then you may get a grade nine for ten rating. The only reason the Stainless bolts may survive is they are soft enough to bend and stretch without breaking.

I buy high strength ss bolts through mcmaster carr.......
Scoff all you want.
That's what they are.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

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[scottbilt95]

I am looking at a new kit for next year. Is the yeti significantly better? All the guys I ride with have Timbersled so I have not tried a yeti. I like the belt drive but how has the durability been?

these threads start out (i think?) with good intentions but sooner or later turn into a flamefest. i don't think anyone will disagree that yeti's use of carbon and titanium is unmatched and their price point reflects that. if dollars aren't an issue, i can't imagine anyone would be disappointed with a yeti. you asked if it's "significantly" better. in the broadest sense, can you get $4K more peformance/fun out of a yeti @ $8K than you can out of a camso @ $4K? i would argue no. that's not to say the yeti isn't lighter and assuming all the other constants (rider, machine, conditions) are equal, this alone should translate to better performance but here's the deal: no kit is currently dominating the scene because if it was, most would be buying it regardless of price point. all the current kit manufacturer's have their good points and their points that they are trying to improve on because the competition forces it. camso probably had the best track for 2017 and the competition took note. same reason for the ARO dropping weight. any particular reason(s) your riding crew rides ts? maybe start there in your search.

also, fwiw, i'm not a fan of belt drives. they are light, efficient, and look cool as hell but i have broken many on sleds and the first time i rode with a yeti the rider broke his. until they use a slipper gear like snow hawks (but this adds weight and reduces efficiency...) i don't like the idea of shelling a belt at typically the worst possible time(s). again, my opinion based on my experiences.

jeff

 

[rhino89523]

I think it is funny when I see technical riding used to describe riding a snowbike, like technical sand duning...haha. I also don't get all these handling issues everyone seems to have with this kit and that kit.

 

[RMK935VA]

I will say this. I have 2 customers that have Yetis and we ride with guys that have Camso and Timbersled kits. Both of these guys just snowchecked 2018 Timbersleds. The one guy told me yesterday, "Everytime I ride I break a bolt or have to fix something, and the Timbersled guys never have to do anything."

I think they all have their benefits, but for me the Timbersled kit is the best overall package right now. I have ridden the Yeti and the Camso.

I have never had anything break on my Yeti. One small bolt/screw backed out from the grab handles at the back of the tunnel. That was replaced. I hit a rock ledge under the snow in December and it dinged the aluminum rail at the bottom of the tunnel on the right side by the brake. It also caused some superficial damage to the tunnel. I talked to Jamie about it (provided photos) and he doesn't think that I have a tunnel structural problem...............yet. Anyway, I am still riding it and it has not gotten any worse. If I have to, I will use their tunnel replacement option but, for now, I am not going to worry about it. I have the 28 mm belt and I check it periodically. I think that I adjusted it once. No stretch since then.

 

[sierraclimber]

I have 2 seasons on my 120 Yeti and ride with 2016 ST Timbersleds all the time. I upgraded to the new track this season. Most of us are still on fixed struts till next season. We ride technical terrain with steep slopes, tight trees. Places I would never take my sled. We have swapped rides and always try to out climb each other.

Here's what I have noticed. We climb the same stuff and there is no difference between brands there. They comment that the Yeti feels more plush through the bumps. I also notice the Timbersled ride is a bit harsher. The only place I notice a difference is when we are blasting through the trees across steep slopes. The Yeti seems to maneuver through the terrain faster. Maybe its the weight and plusher ride allowing it to be ridden a bit faster then the TS.

The only think I have broke is a Ti bolt that sheared when I was loosening it but they have higher grade Ti bolts standard now.

The Yeti is considerably more $. Does it justify the expense? That really depends on you and your finances. I know I could also be very happy on the TS. For how much more Yeti costs, I was expecting it to stomp on the TS but they are actually very close.