looking on getting a leftover apex mtx or a new 2012 nytro 162 with the s/c upgrade. first off... any thoughts on these choices. i am new to riding in the mountains and can use as much info as i can get on what would be a good choice between these two sleds. i will be riding around lake tahoe area. i am not looking to climb mountains all of the time, just wanting to trail ride and shoot off into the deep stuff once in awhile. i know that these two choices arent for trail riding, but they are better on the trail than a short track is off trail. also what are the pros and cons on the s/c compared to a turbo. my initial question is who is a good yamaha dealer to deal with. it must be within about a days drive from sacramento,ca, as i have been told by two dealers across the country, i cant buy a sled and do any financing if i choose, unless i am there in person. just wanting to deal with a decent dealer with a fair price and good service.
thanks for any info.
The reason that the apex MTX was dropped was because the changes made to the 2010 nytro 162" allowed it to out perform the apex mtx in every way. Even though it has less horsepower the suspension changes and the weight loss done to the nytro put it ahead of the apex. So I would definitely go with the nytro.
Supercharger vs. Turbocharger- Age old question. I'll list my knowledge on the subject and let you decide.
Forced induction allows for consistent horsepower at high elevation. So clutch it once at any altitude and your clutching will still be VERY close at any other altitude. The reason naturally aspirated motors lose HP at high elevation is because the air is thinner. So each time the piston draws in air there is less and less of it as you rise in elevation.
Both turn a turbine that compresses air and forces it into the engine rather than the engine pulling air in by itself.
General recipe for Horsepower is More air in + More air out + More fuel = More HP.
The difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger is HOW it spins the turbine.
Turbocharger- Uses exhaust gas to spin the turbine and it draws/compresses fresh air into the motor.
Supercharger- Attached to the crank. So when the crank spins (even at idle) the supercharger is compressing air.
Supercharger will instantly build boost right from the start of the power curve because it is driven from the crank.
Turbocharger will have a "delay" before there is enough exhaust flow to spin the turbine and compress air. (With the 180 kit I would bet the delay is minimal because the compression ratio remains the same.)
Turbochargers will provide a greater top end over the superchargers.
Superchargers are dominant over turbochargers in the low and mid range.
The 180 turbo kit replaces the exhaust system in the back so the weight difference is probably very close to 0 over stock.
The supercharger will add more weight to the front end of the sled but I doubt it's very much.
Because superchargers don't alter the exhaust of the sled you will also see gains if you put an aftermarket exhaust on the sled. (goes back to the recipe for horsepower posted above)
You may have known a lot of this information already but I'm bored and figured I would cover all bases anyway!
-Justin
