Put the guage(s) on top of the riser so that people can see them easily. Too many have a tough time looking at the stock guages to tune their clutching. Make reading the guages easy so they can tune or recognize something is wrong with the turbo set up.
XP Turbo Kits---soon!!!
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That's why I'm trying to get the boost a fuel pressure gauges in the factory dash panel where they are viewable sitting or standing. Egt or AFR gauge will be on the bar.
Dave
Dave
Cool. PM me details as you get them please!
Turbo Reeds?? Would that be an entire reed block and runner from the carburator?? Made thicker or what??
At this time Tony Doukas will be making the turbo reeds for this application and that will be included in the kit. Just the replacement turbo petals. Boyesen has some prototype full aluminum bodied Rage Cage assemblies out being tested that are kind of on the back burner as of now. I'm begging them to go into full production with these for the turbo application. The probduction Rage Cage they have now for the XP is kind of a joke. It still does nothing about the rubber boot.
Dave
Dave
You seem very dedicated to building what people want. Please keep me on your list and when you finalize everything PM me.
BTW, would you be using Power Jets? I ride at 8000' and up, mostly around 10,000' so I know that becomes part of the equation. Again, I have to stress reliability. I'm keeping this sled for a while. But I don't wanna get taken to the cleaners with my buddy's T-RMK 700.
BTW, would you be using Power Jets? I ride at 8000' and up, mostly around 10,000' so I know that becomes part of the equation. Again, I have to stress reliability. I'm keeping this sled for a while. But I don't wanna get taken to the cleaners with my buddy's T-RMK 700.
If you consistantly ride one elevation you will hardly touch the power jets. They will come in the kit and will need tweeked some for elevation/temp changes. I think I have found a good knob for indexing them and actually turning the little buggers. Our baseline jetting I think we will set at 10000' and then anything under that and the powerjets will need opened to add fuel. Anything over that and just rejet the carbs or ride it a tad rich. The powerjets only add fuel. From our testing the turboed carbs don't seem to be as sensative to evlevation as a normal setup.
Dave
Dave
I've rode with a friend of mine this season who rides a boosted XP with a 28-60 ball bearing garrett, but with a difference. Ya he had a lot of setup and tuning issues at first. It's tuned with the factory dpm for fuel, no power jets. I don't know of anyone who has done this. I think he's got about 1500 km. on it or more. Runs 8 psi of boost on ave gas. It's turning out to be a great reliable sled for a 2 stroker.
I've heard of this guy lurking around up north with this setup and would really like to talk to him about how he did this. I can't seem to wrap my head around all the details on how this would work. Not sure if I doubt it, but I would like an explaination. Good deal for him for sticking with it to get it to work. Hell, most guys ditch the DPM on the stock sleds.
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Nate
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Good on ya Dale! Makes me want to purchase an XP since I have a remarkable Skidoo dealer down the road and you're so close! But that whole skidoo thing.......hahaha 
Yeah Nate, Terry is a great dealer for Ski-doo. I have only rode with him a few times and have friends that buy sleds from him. I'm to cheap and poor to buy new and he doesnt sell used, but everyone I know that has dealt with him says nothing but good. I still have to get this XP over to him and have it registered through Ski-Doo. I still don't know about this Cat deal. Not sure when they will step up and build a better quality product. The engine is bullet proof, but the rest of the sled is built cheap. imo. Oh well, I've always been a Ski-Doo guy and they were not interesting to me for a while and I played Cat rider. Now I have been seeing good things with the XP. I have never seen a stock or even some mod sleds claw and climb like this thing does. Truely amazing. I will keep the turboed Cat for now and use as a sled to test against because it does work so well. Unfortunatelly with two turboed XP's in our group the Cats days are numbered. If I sell the Cat then I will build myself a turboed XP and let the wife actually ride hers. I like riding the Cat, I just don't like going from M to XP.
Dave
. Not sure when they will step up and build a better quality product. The engine is bullet proof, but the rest of the sled is built cheap. imo. Oh well, I've always been a Ski-Doo guy and they were not interesting to me for a while and I played Cat rider. Now I have been seeing good things with the XP. I have never seen a stock or even some mod sleds claw and climb like this thing does. Truely amazing. I will keep the turboed Cat for now and use as a sled to test against because it does work so well. Unfortunatelly with two turboed XP's in our group the Cats days are numbered. If I sell the Cat then I will build myself a turboed XP and let the wife actually ride hers. I like riding the Cat, I just don't like going from M to XP.Dave
Good on ya Dale! Makes me want to purchase an XP since I have a remarkable Skidoo dealer down the road and you're so close! But that whole skidoo thing.......hahaha
So all bs aside how is the turbo xp doing against the turbo cat?? Boost for boost??
I dont like to get beat, in fact I hate it with a passion
I dont like to get beat, in fact I hate it with a passion
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Nate
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If your Doo's do the deed Dale I would cross over. But you have alot of convincing to do But I know how long you have been around and I trust your word. I will get to Rapid in the next couple of weeks, i'd like to see what you have planned up close and personal if you're free.
But I know how long you have been around and I trust your word. I will get to Rapid in the next couple of weeks, i'd like to see what you have planned up close and personal if you're free.Yeah Nate, Terry is a great dealer for Ski-doo. I have only rode with him a few times and have friends that buy sleds from him. I'm to cheap and poor to buy new and he doesnt sell used, but everyone I know that has dealt with him says nothing but good. I still have to get this XP over to him and have it registered through Ski-Doo. I still don't know about this Cat deal
Dave
I agree, the snorkel gets ripped off. I came up with an idea for a cold air intake, put a vent on the hood, take some plastic, make a box with the filter in it that covers up the space of the hood vent and run a tube from the filter box to the turbo and bingo, a stealth cold air intake. Just and idea, feel free to use it if you like it
. When I build one this summer I'll take pics for you, if it works. I'm putting thermal reflective (i think thats what it is called) fabric around the box and sealing it with silcone.I have an 07' that me and Dave are going to turbo this summer also. I have known Dave for years and if there's one person I trust with sleds it's Dave. I have ridden his sleds along with the turboed REV that they have had built for the last 2 years and he has me convinced!
By the way, you need to get rid of that kitty kat Dave! Haha
By the way, you need to get rid of that kitty kat Dave! Haha
In the trees I feel the carbed sleds are more responsive due to the clutching. I consistantly run 12-14psi on the Cat so some of the snappyness is lost due to the heavy clutching. The Cat has been dialed in to the nuts for three years now so it has that advantage. Still fine tuneing the clutching on the Ski-Doos. You can't really buy off the shelf turbo specific clutching for the Ski-Doos. Trial and error. Test and ture. R&D Anytime we have had the Ski-Doos out and the boost turned up the Cat has been home. Sorry no real side by side comarison I'm not trying to toss around any BS but that is how it is. Now in my opinion, seat of the pants it seems like the turboed carbed sleds get more done with slightly less boost. Sometimes I can't believe how low the boost he runs on the Ski-Doo and does what he does. Boost for boost XP chassis vs Cat chassis imho if you can hang on I feel the boosted XP will take you where you don't want to be. Drag raceing is a different game and I'm not setting the clutching parameters for that. Boondocking and hillclimbing.
Not sure if I answered very good or confused more. I need to let my pills wear off and go have a beer for breakfast
. I'll try to clear it up after my med nap if your still in the dark.
Anytime we have had the Ski-Doos out and the boost turned up the Cat has been home. Sorry no real side by side comarison I'm not trying to toss around any BS but that is how it is. Now in my opinion, seat of the pants it seems like the turboed carbed sleds get more done with slightly less boost. Sometimes I can't believe how low the boost he runs on the Ski-Doo and does what he does. Boost for boost XP chassis vs Cat chassis imho if you can hang on I feel the boosted XP will take you where you don't want to be. Drag raceing is a different game and I'm not setting the clutching parameters for that. Boondocking and hillclimbing.Not sure if I answered very good or confused more. I need to let my pills wear off and go have a beer for breakfast
. I'll try to clear it up after my med nap if your still in the dark.Justin
I know the Cat has to go, but it does give me a good test mule against the XP's. I need to sell some kits so I can buy another used XP and turbo that. Can't take Kristi's sled from her you know, that wouldn't be right. I have to keep adding to the collection, so maybe I'll keep the Cat and let Hannah (13 year old daughter) ride it. She does need to step up from her big bore nitrous sled at some time right? Now get to work and make some $$$ and we will get you a kit done ASAP.
Dave
I know the Cat has to go, but it does give me a good test mule against the XP's. I need to sell some kits so I can buy another used XP and turbo that. Can't take Kristi's sled from her you know, that wouldn't be right
. I have to keep adding to the collection, so maybe I'll keep the Cat and let Hannah (13 year old daughter) ride it. She does need to step up from her big bore nitrous sled at some time right? Now get to work and make some $$$ and we will get you a kit done ASAP.Dave
In the trees I feel the carbed sleds are more responsive due to the clutching. I consistantly run 12-14psi on the Cat so some of the snappyness is lost due to the heavy clutching. The Cat has been dialed in to the nuts for three years now so it has that advantage. Still fine tuneing the clutching on the Ski-Doos. You can't really buy off the shelf turbo specific clutching for the Ski-Doos. Trial and error. Test and ture. R&D
Not sure if I answered very good or confused more. I need to let my pills wear off and go have a beer for breakfast
Boondocking, carving up meadows and hillclimbing is where it's at! Drag racing is for peeps with small weiners that feel that they have to prove something. I know my sled won't win a drag and I'm fine with that, but she does like climbing. Oh Yeah!maybe we can work out some something for you testing the XP, DW! I ride nothing but mountains at high Elev and I try very hard to stay off trails. Ask the peeps that ride with me. It's all trees to get to my secret stashes, busting windblown booters, climbing and carving pristine meadows.
I hear alot of folks asking about price.....IMO when your modding a motor and your concerned about price your better off not attempting such a mod.
Turbo kits need to come complete with all the bells & whistles if there expected to run with the least amount of headaches...Bottom line you get what you pay for.
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Turbo kits need to come complete with all the bells & whistles if there expected to run with the least amount of headaches...Bottom line you get what you pay for.
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I have to disagree to some extent. The cost of these kits seems to have more to do with the builders getting greedy than the quality of the kits. I would bet Dave's kit will be one of the cheaper kits on the market and won't lack any of the bells and wistles. It comes down to R&D and knowing how to make one run. Don't let his price, whatever it may be, worry you if it's cheaper than everybody elses. I know Dave and the quality, I'm sure, will be every bit as good if now better than any other builder out there.
