Xp turbo kits 53 & 66 series
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The fundamentals of turbo charging by Nicholas C Baines is a good source of info.I haven't found it on line so you may have to buy a hard copy. Maximum Boost by Corky Bell ( Bell Intercoolers) is a good source of info as well. I ordered mine off line.
ttt
Great info and a nice job on the install!!!
Price?
ETA?
DIY install?
Chaz
Price?
ETA?
DIY install?
Chaz
What kind of reliabilty are you getting out of the bouncing betty with the 66 aero? That thing has issues at stock HP's I couldn't imagine that thing holding up with an Aero 66 intercooled set-up. I would bet the 4 arm Polar or equivilent on one of your set-ups would provide as much or more gains than your intercooler findings. What's another $1,200-$1,500 at this point?
Nice work!!
Nice work!!
The reliability is very good like I said in a previous post 12-1500 miles on a top end. I have found the 07 R motors to have had more issues than the 08-09 sleds. The clutching has been good as far as the set ups, if you are not familiar with the clutch the final drive is .8 to 1. This allows the Ski-doos to have lower gearing setups and allow us to run shallower helix angles that generate excelent bottom end and top end performance. I have customers that run that 66 kit at 14 psi with no belt or clutching issues to date. For higher boost applications we like to run the premium clutch kit. Thanks for the compliments on the kits we have worked hard to design production kits that look as good as they work.
Chaz
Prices are on the website. We can ship a kit within a week( just need to box it up)Install prices require a PM and I can give you that info.
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canucklehead
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Install is not included?
I thought that price included pickup, install, delivery and a few lap dances.
I thought that price included pickup, install, delivery and a few lap dances.
nice work throw it in a C3 carbon chassy mmmmmm!!!!! hey are those Br-Tech vents?
The vents we use are made by R&M Lightning products. They are a laser cut frame with a replaceable screen. Clutch side is a finer mesh to keep the snow off the clutches. I have run them on all my personal sleds with excelent durability and airflow.
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TurboM700
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Questions
Quick question
Why is it with a aero53 at 10-12psi you said you have 230-235hp and when you went to a aero 66 at 15psi you went to 250 only 15 more horse for 5 psi. Do you have Dyno numbers to prove this? Something just doesnt sound right.
Also you notice a 40 degree change in temp with an intercooler that's not a hole lot. The wind good have changed heck you could have picked a different line on a hill causing the turbo to not work so hard. Need more evidence before I go slapping a intercooler on my sled and adding weight and turbo lag to the equation not to mention a big heat sink. I have seen to many turbo builder throw these "kits" together and not do any test. I would like to see some testing before I go a throw out 6 grand for a turbo kit. That worth half that.
Not trying to question your product or call you out just want some hard evidence on these numbers that you posted.
Thanks
Mike
Quick question
Why is it with a aero53 at 10-12psi you said you have 230-235hp and when you went to a aero 66 at 15psi you went to 250 only 15 more horse for 5 psi. Do you have Dyno numbers to prove this? Something just doesnt sound right.
Also you notice a 40 degree change in temp with an intercooler that's not a hole lot. The wind good have changed heck you could have picked a different line on a hill causing the turbo to not work so hard. Need more evidence before I go slapping a intercooler on my sled and adding weight and turbo lag to the equation not to mention a big heat sink. I have seen to many turbo builder throw these "kits" together and not do any test. I would like to see some testing before I go a throw out 6 grand for a turbo kit. That worth half that.
Not trying to question your product or call you out just want some hard evidence on these numbers that you posted.
Thanks
Mike
Daum and sheeit!! NIce!
It appears that I should have kept a better eye on this thread. It seems I have to educate some people on the fundementals of how we have achieved the numbers we did. In boosting a TWO stroke snowmobile the process of compressing air is without doubt a increase in intake air temp. In other words air that is compressed is heated in the process and in that process the more you compress it the more heat that is generated. In intercooling a lower boost preasure your HP per psi of boost is more than if you intercool a higher psi of boost. For example 1psi of boost on the kits in mention up to 9-10psi intercooled will make 7-10hp per psi. 10 would be optimum performance and 7 is what we have found as the low end hp.This number declines when the intake temps rise. Looking at boost preasures above 12psi you will find a decrease in hp produced due to the fact that intake(compressed) air is hotter. Hp generated as the boost increases goes from 7 down to as low as 4 in some cases. In saying that 40 degrees is not alot then you have to understand that it could mean the difference of a detonation issue or not.
I would like to assure you that these KITS are not just thrown together and we have been selling kits for 3 years and testing these designs for 4 years. I personally have over 9 years experience with boosted 2 strokes and over 15 years dealing with turbo systems. Boostwurx I know has at least 15 years of turbo experience. These kits may not be for everyone and they are priced not to compete with the boondockers of the industry. They are professionaly built with the best components and unsurpassed performance with excellent reliability. I would be happy to ablige anyone who wants to ride with us to contact me on the web email for dates and areas we will be.
I would like to assure you that these KITS are not just thrown together and we have been selling kits for 3 years and testing these designs for 4 years. I personally have over 9 years experience with boosted 2 strokes and over 15 years dealing with turbo systems. Boostwurx I know has at least 15 years of turbo experience. These kits may not be for everyone and they are priced not to compete with the boondockers of the industry. They are professionaly built with the best components and unsurpassed performance with excellent reliability. I would be happy to ablige anyone who wants to ride with us to contact me on the web email for dates and areas we will be.
Are all of your temperatures in Celsius? -You mentioned in a later post the ambient temp was 18 deg C, so I would guess that these temps are C also?
Brian,
The temps I refer to when I quote 60-100 degrees are in farenheight not celcius.
good info here on the intercooler, a 40 degree drop represents 15hp
sometimes a new thread just need to be started with any questions or new findings. And just read the old threads. Sorry there was just a ton of politics with these threads. Wrong posted hp numbers and also boost levels run with the 53. Also let's try and keep the posts from Dave Halverson dead. That is just bad all around and took at least 2 years to get the doo forum back up and running with some good info and knowledge.
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jarred and myself are doing a liitle testing on how the intercooler and water to air will compare, some good info on how welll the air to air works
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