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XP setup and handling

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Insaneboltrounder/sjohns

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I had another chance to ride a buddy's 163 and had a few issues. No ski lift , he has the limiter set so that when the sled is sitting flat on the road the limiter is tight. He can ride this thing anywhere , any side hill for as long as he wants. I get on it and can barely get the ski of the snow for 5 feet. If i had to side hill my way out of a hard pack bowl id be hooped. Seems to me that if the limiter was out , that would fix it? I asked the resident guru here and would also like to hear more ideas on rear skid setup. Thnx sj
 
My rear Skid Setup

I have the limit strap as long as possible. Front track shock as tight as i can get it but i ride hard and weight 160lbs. the rear torsion springs are set to number 3. Awesome in the deep, not great for hill climbing with people set up for the mountains. Too much ski lift. You decide. The sway bar has been removed aswell. Once you remove the sway links you'll have to stiffen up the front shocks aswell since you are completely independent. I have nothing to complain with mine. I can do anything with mine including hammering the bumps. Good luck..
 
Yea but i was lookin for a few guys who weigh more than their backpacks;). If i set them shox up on the lowest position ill be draggin bumper the whole way:eek:. sj
 
To help pulling the sled up on its side I get rid of the sway bar. I prefer the limiter out enough so that when the sled is flat on the garage floor it has a little wiggle. When the limiter is too far out the sled isnt as good in straight up pulls.

I believe the secondary being where it is gives this light sled a heavy feel when pulling it over on its side. Gyro effect.
 
The biggest trouble that the XP suffers from when riders 250# and above ride the XP is the overall stock rear suspension, It doesn't really matter where your limiters are set at if the center & rear shocks sage so bad that the running boards create drag and handeling issues.,,,,,,You ever notice how low the rear of the XP sits in the snow ? That because the rear shock are saged and only rated for 225# riders which are whorthless for heavy riders. The dual action center shock springs are also rated for 225# riders which require that both springs be changed at a minimum to accomadate the corrcet rider weight....2 Fox Zero Pro's is a real good answer to the problem

The 2 stock rear torsion spring are also very soft for big riders as well. You can either purchase heavier torsion springs or for real cheap $$ have your local machine shop cut 2 new blocks that are a 1/4 inch larger on the "#5 adjustment side only" over stock. The 1/4" over size on the #5 side allows the spring to be cranked up stiffer which will allow those torsion springs to work better for heavy riders.

When your limiters are tight your front end and ski pressure become heavy. When your limiters are loose your front end and ski pressure are light and nimmble. Again rider weight should be factored into the adjustment.

When you climbing have your straps out allows for the least amount of front end drag. When im climbing i prefer my ski's to barely touching the snow if at all.

OT
 
Another big ride idea

OK, Im 6'6 250, I have an XP, with a can. That is it. I have tons of ski lift, probably too much, I am doing some clutching to it tonight and a different head on. We will see what that does .I put a higher riser on to stand up straighter but other than that.... Here is a pic

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