Hey I was wondering what the best skis for a 2008 rev xp renegade 800r with 1.75 track would be. Most the riding done on the sled is in the woods through trees. It takes trails to get where it is going or to the cabin. It may also climb a ocassional hill when you come across one or have to side hill across a valley. The current stock skis suck in the snow and dip. It really needs to get more floating up front. There is also zbros shocks up front going on it. The sled gets a lot of deep snow and explores. Where were thinking of the Simmions Gen II skis that are 10 in wide. We also looked at C&A Pro XT skis. I hear the XT are really aggresive and hard to turn. The Gen II seem to be really wide though. I know I have aslo heard a lot of good from SLydogs, SLP Powder Pros and USI Triple Threats. The thing is almost all aftermarket skis you hear a lot of good things about them but i need to know which ones would be best for this sled. I am diffenitly a fan of wider skis over the normal stock width. Then let me know and if you know any other good canadates let me know about them to.
Wondering Whats Best Skis
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I have ca pros on my06 rev and they are much better than the oems, have had regular simmons on a couple of sleds and really like them,I think that most people that run genII are mainly yamaha peeps just to help with flotation in the deep stuff. I dont think that for the xp they are needed because they arent that hevy, Just my opinion. Good luck
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IdahoMike
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Slydogs
You might try a set of the 6.9 Pilots, seeing how you probably have the 5.7 Pilots now.
The pilots aren't bad but I perfer the Slydog Powder Hounds (7" wide).
I just put a new set on the wifes 09 XP Summit X 154 600 E-Tec and they work really nice. I also have them on my 06 Summit X 151 800 H.O.
If you go with the Slydogs get a hold of Scott Bergstrom and get some ski savers from him to put on your new skis. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my 06 with darting on the trail.
The Simmons are good too, I would go with the Gen I, I really don't think you need a 10" wide ski on an XP. Just my honest opinion
You might try a set of the 6.9 Pilots, seeing how you probably have the 5.7 Pilots now.
The pilots aren't bad but I perfer the Slydog Powder Hounds (7" wide).
I just put a new set on the wifes 09 XP Summit X 154 600 E-Tec and they work really nice. I also have them on my 06 Summit X 151 800 H.O.
If you go with the Slydogs get a hold of Scott Bergstrom and get some ski savers from him to put on your new skis. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my 06 with darting on the trail.
The Simmons are good too, I would go with the Gen I, I really don't think you need a 10" wide ski on an XP. Just my honest opinion
I've got an 05 summit and when I bought it it had Simmons, well those were the first things to go. I replaced them with C&A PRO XT, I did this party because I have always had C&A's and like the way they handle on the trail, especially if you don't have a swaybar. Anyways i've been very satisfied with the XT's and would buy them again in a heartbeat. They do great on the trail, not hard to turn at all in my opinion and off the trail in the deep snow they are amazing. However 2 other guys I ride with have SlyDogs and swear by them.
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Desperado
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If you go with the Slydogs get a hold of Scott Bergstrom and get some ski savers from him to put on your new skis. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my 06 with darting on the trail.QUOTE]
Mike who is Scott Bergstrom and how do I get a hold of him. I have a set of slydogs powder hounds and I like them but I would like to try these savers and see if they help the darting issue. Thanks
If you go with the Slydogs get a hold of Scott Bergstrom and get some ski savers from him to put on your new skis. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my 06 with darting on the trail.QUOTE]
Mike who is Scott Bergstrom and how do I get a hold of him. I have a set of slydogs powder hounds and I like them but I would like to try these savers and see if they help the darting issue. Thanks
Ya the ski savers you talk about what are they like and what do they do. I am not found of the normal simmons skis i find they are nor that good in snow. What are the powder hounds like on the trails and are they tough. Dont really want the most aggresive ski but we do want more aggresive then stock and the probably more aggresive then the mountain pilots to. SnowViagra what type of C&A's do you have. The skls will have to be able to be able to float good s0o when you slow down in the woods your front still stays up. Anybody use any of these skis going in the woods and around trees.
I love my simmons, but they are on a M7 ; )
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Snocross 100
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Gen III
I think simmons needs to make a gen III that only has the extended sides of the gen II on the inside!
I think simmons needs to make a gen III that only has the extended sides of the gen II on the inside!
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IdahoMike
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Scott Bergstrom & Bergstrom Skegs
Here is the link to Bergstrom Skegs (Scott) lots of info on this site.
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/useful.htm
The ski savers come in 1/4" or 3/8" (I went with the 1/4") they go between the bottom of the ski and the skeg. They save on wear and tear on your ski bottoms plus they keep the skegs from sinking into the deeper ruts. I would have never thought something so simple would make that much difference in the way my Slydogs performed on the trail, but they made a believer out of me.
I took Scotts recomendation and put his Bergstrom heavy duty (1/2") wear bars with 6" carbides along with the 1/4" Ski Savers on the new Slydog Powder Hounds I just installed on my wifes 09 XP. While I was installing the new skis I discovered that my so called dealer did a poor job of setting up the sled as the skis were toed out 1 1/4" WTF!!!
Once I verified the track was in alignment, I set the toe out to Doos specs of 5/64" total. The sled handles awesome both off and on trail for the wife.
Scott is a great guy, don't hesitate to call him and ask him questions. The man knows SKIS, and how and why, they perform the way they do.
Here is the link to Bergstrom Skegs (Scott) lots of info on this site.
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/useful.htm
The ski savers come in 1/4" or 3/8" (I went with the 1/4") they go between the bottom of the ski and the skeg. They save on wear and tear on your ski bottoms plus they keep the skegs from sinking into the deeper ruts. I would have never thought something so simple would make that much difference in the way my Slydogs performed on the trail, but they made a believer out of me.
I took Scotts recomendation and put his Bergstrom heavy duty (1/2") wear bars with 6" carbides along with the 1/4" Ski Savers on the new Slydog Powder Hounds I just installed on my wifes 09 XP. While I was installing the new skis I discovered that my so called dealer did a poor job of setting up the sled as the skis were toed out 1 1/4" WTF!!!
Once I verified the track was in alignment, I set the toe out to Doos specs of 5/64" total. The sled handles awesome both off and on trail for the wife. Scott is a great guy, don't hesitate to call him and ask him questions. The man knows SKIS, and how and why, they perform the way they do.
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stacey
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skis
changed my stock skis to gen 1 simmons..and holy crap..my 08 1000 162" handled and turned 10x better than a 06 m7 with a 153" track...4 other people noticed a massive difference.
changed my stock skis to gen 1 simmons..and holy crap..my 08 1000 162" handled and turned 10x better than a 06 m7 with a 153" track...4 other people noticed a massive difference.
slp powder pros!
I love my slp powder pros, after having simmons, slydog powder hounds, and of course my stock skis.
I don't have a rev so i can't say for that sled. But i Really enjoy the fact that when I turn with the powder pros they hook up and turn. The slydog powder hounds, by far were the worst ski i have ever had the displeasure of running, push and do not turn when you want to. I don't think you should have to buy something to make the ski perform, they are already expensive enough. Just my .02
I love my slp powder pros, after having simmons, slydog powder hounds, and of course my stock skis.
I don't have a rev so i can't say for that sled. But i Really enjoy the fact that when I turn with the powder pros they hook up and turn. The slydog powder hounds, by far were the worst ski i have ever had the displeasure of running, push and do not turn when you want to. I don't think you should have to buy something to make the ski perform, they are already expensive enough. Just my .02
I'd never heard of them before on a mountain sled but, how are the SLP SLT (Straight Line Tracking) skis?
I see Snowest put them on their Project M-80 this season.
Snowest raves about how great they work in the Mod Stock magazine.
They say "possibly the most versatile ski we have ever ridden".
"There are skis that are more aggressive and there are skis that are less aggressive. But theSLT delivers the right amount of bite and control when you need it without being overpowering or hard to steer. It's a forgiving ski in crusty or hard pack conditions. It floats exceptionally well for its width in the powder and loose snow and holds its own against any ski in demanding aggressive riding".
Huh? Who knew?
I see Snowest put them on their Project M-80 this season.
Snowest raves about how great they work in the Mod Stock magazine.
They say "possibly the most versatile ski we have ever ridden".
"There are skis that are more aggressive and there are skis that are less aggressive. But theSLT delivers the right amount of bite and control when you need it without being overpowering or hard to steer. It's a forgiving ski in crusty or hard pack conditions. It floats exceptionally well for its width in the powder and loose snow and holds its own against any ski in demanding aggressive riding".
Huh? Who knew?
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woodies
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my vote is simmons 1 and 2. have both on my sleds work great for floating the front end, you do have to learn to stop over steering with them. the twin skags flatout rock and cuts down on the back spray off the skis. cat700 and nytro turbo better go ride laters!
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Rev-olution
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Powder pros on my xp work far better than stock
slp slt's
i have slp straight line tracking SLT's on my 03 pro x with a 144. do a lot of mountain/powder/jumping, etc. The slt's are very nice when the snow has a crust, they turn easily without much effort, as far as floatation i think they do ok there as well. i do a lot of boondocking and they float well enough that i don't find myself thinking i need new skis. overall a decent ski, but they don't float as well as powder pros in the deep stuff
i have slp straight line tracking SLT's on my 03 pro x with a 144. do a lot of mountain/powder/jumping, etc. The slt's are very nice when the snow has a crust, they turn easily without much effort, as far as floatation i think they do ok there as well. i do a lot of boondocking and they float well enough that i don't find myself thinking i need new skis. overall a decent ski, but they don't float as well as powder pros in the deep stuff
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IdahoMike
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I love my slp powder pros, after having simmons, slydog powder hounds, and of course my stock skis.
I don't have a rev so i can't say for that sled. But i Really enjoy the fact that when I turn with the powder pros they hook up and turn. The slydog powder hounds, by far were the worst ski i have ever had the displeasure of running, push and do not turn when you want to. I don't think you should have to buy something to make the ski perform, they are already expensive enough. Just my .02
Not really sure why your responding to the guys question about, "What skis work best on the XP"? You obviously don't own an XP or a Rev. I on the other hand I happen to own both, and have plenty of experiance with different skis on both of these chassiss.
By looking at your post I see you have a 2003 Vertical Edge Polaris that your running the PP's on. By your discription of how the Slydogs performed on your Edge chassis it's obvious they were not the ski for that chassis, and the PP's were.
Stay tuned for the next subscriber wanting to know "What skis work best on the Polaris Edge chassis"? You will be wealth of information for those folks.
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Desperado
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Mike thanks for the link, I called slydogs and asked for my sled what is the best setup for this ski. I own an 09 M8 and I know the question posted was for a Doo but I always learn something from these posts. What I leared from dogs in getting any ski to perform as advertized is setup. We talked about the REV and XP setups along with how to set up an M sled, very interesting conversations and they were very helpful in their input and helped me alot in getting my dogs to work on my M sled. They are not perfect but I do not know of a ski that is (and I've tried a few). I sugget for anyone who settles on whatever brand of ski for thier sled that they call the manufactur and find out their recommendations for sled setup for that style of ski. Does the keel requrie more or less pressure, do the ski's work best slightly toe'd in or out, what camber angle do they requre, what are the best carbides to run for your style of riding. The best ski in the world can't perform up to standards unless the sled is set up correctly. Thanks again for the link and I'm going to check it out.
I've tried C&A's, Simmons, Powder Pro's, and of course the stock 6.9 that comes o nthe mtn sled vs. the 5.9 on the Renegade. Various times over the past 2 seasons in many different conditions. This is what I've found. Interior/Cariboo of B.C. riding only. This may mean nothing if you ride Wash Concrete or Utah's Sugar.
Stock 6.9 Pilot - I'm very suprised with this ski, works very well for the type of snow we normally get. They float well, carve into a sidehill when you need them, and trailwise, they get a passing grade. They don't do one thing outstanding, they do most things a few notches below.
C&A Pro - My trail ski of choice. Absolutely rips. Best one hands down. Powder.....maybe it's because I'm 225lbs + gear and heavier than my customers that bought C&A skis I don't like them as much in the powder but...I think they tend to submarine just below the surface most of the time. Not a bad ski, if I could swap skis for conditions, these would be the set hanging in the trailer. I prefer a not so aggressive ADX ski as it doesn't try to tear the bars outta your hands when liesurely riding the trail back home. I found the XT and the Outlaw did this. Going up the trail was no problem. Attacking the trail pretty much the whole way. Too aggressive for one hand on the bar looking everywhere but where you should kinda riding. Haven't tried the other models.
Simmons Gen I 6" - Wrong ski for sled. I did my best over a day to get these skis to work. Not for me.
SLP Powder Pro - I'm a bit biased as I have they on my personal sled but nonetheless. I like the Powder Pro's a lot. decent trail skis with minimal darting(for me anyways) Seem to track very well. And well.....in the powder. They float like the Simmons, turn like the C&A, and outperform the stock skis everywhere.(Not saying the stock skis are bad, if I didn't have to replace them I wouldn't actually. That's how much I like them) SLP's for the first part of the year. C&A's for the spring.
I have a set of these on my Mod Cat(don't hang me IDMike ) and love them. Wasn't really suprised that they worked as well as they did on the XP. My mod weighs a little less than an XP with a little more HP. Sleds acted very similar to one another. I had a chance to try it out a few weeks ago, riding each sled back to back. Like I said, I wasn't suprised they worked but I was suprised that with different style chassis all together(1M vs. XP) that they would react so similar. Made me hate the M-Series chassis on the spot.
So, if I got this right, for your style of riding....I'd probably go with the C&A's. They float as well as the stock 6.9 Pilots, but outperform everyone once on the trail or set-up snow.
I've never tried Slydogs but really want to make a fair comparison. My buddy has them on his T-Nytro but no feedback yet. Skis have yet to touch snow. And sled has 3 rides on it.
Anyone wanna donate a pair for a few weeks? haha
Stock 6.9 Pilot - I'm very suprised with this ski, works very well for the type of snow we normally get. They float well, carve into a sidehill when you need them, and trailwise, they get a passing grade. They don't do one thing outstanding, they do most things a few notches below.
C&A Pro - My trail ski of choice. Absolutely rips. Best one hands down. Powder.....maybe it's because I'm 225lbs + gear and heavier than my customers that bought C&A skis I don't like them as much in the powder but...I think they tend to submarine just below the surface most of the time. Not a bad ski, if I could swap skis for conditions, these would be the set hanging in the trailer. I prefer a not so aggressive ADX ski as it doesn't try to tear the bars outta your hands when liesurely riding the trail back home. I found the XT and the Outlaw did this. Going up the trail was no problem. Attacking the trail pretty much the whole way. Too aggressive for one hand on the bar looking everywhere but where you should kinda riding. Haven't tried the other models.
Simmons Gen I 6" - Wrong ski for sled. I did my best over a day to get these skis to work. Not for me.
SLP Powder Pro - I'm a bit biased as I have they on my personal sled but nonetheless. I like the Powder Pro's a lot. decent trail skis with minimal darting(for me anyways) Seem to track very well. And well.....in the powder. They float like the Simmons, turn like the C&A, and outperform the stock skis everywhere.(Not saying the stock skis are bad, if I didn't have to replace them I wouldn't actually. That's how much I like them) SLP's for the first part of the year. C&A's for the spring.
I have a set of these on my Mod Cat(don't hang me IDMike
) and love them. Wasn't really suprised that they worked as well as they did on the XP. My mod weighs a little less than an XP with a little more HP. Sleds acted very similar to one another. I had a chance to try it out a few weeks ago, riding each sled back to back. Like I said, I wasn't suprised they worked but I was suprised that with different style chassis all together(1M vs. XP) that they would react so similar. Made me hate the M-Series chassis on the spot. So, if I got this right, for your style of riding....I'd probably go with the C&A's. They float as well as the stock 6.9 Pilots, but outperform everyone once on the trail or set-up snow.
I've never tried Slydogs but really want to make a fair comparison. My buddy has them on his T-Nytro but no feedback yet. Skis have yet to touch snow. And sled has 3 rides on it.
Anyone wanna donate a pair for a few weeks? haha
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