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Wolves go after hunters

We were watching this on the news last night and they interviewed the guy. He described how the wolves had surrounded him, were howling, snarling and coming closer and closer to them.
His rifle was on the far side of the horse and he couldn't get to it.

I turned to my wife and said, "You watch, some jackwagon from PETA is going to come out and say how they didn't think the wolves were attacking these guys but just looking for his elk."

WTF was the very next sentence on the newsbroadcast....some jackwagon from "defenders of wildlife" claiming to know that the wolves were just following the smell of meat from this man's elk because he didn't take care of his carcass correctly. It's very unlikely these wolves were aggressive toward the hunters."

WOW. And so the jackwagon from defenders of wildlife was actually there, saw it, and can properly report the true actual circumstances. PLUS he talked to the wolves about it and knows their true intensions, right?

What a freakin jackhole.
 
Yeah this just annoys me! I was expecting the same sort of thing from the arse barnacles. :face-icon-small-dis I've heard other stories similar to this about wolves surrounding guys (from the peeps), and there wasn't any hunting kill involved.

We have an overpopulation, and one that has no fear of humans, and will hunt a human as it would any other animal. :face-icon-small-fro

I know if I had been in that situation, I would have shot them all. I would have been scared to death, and kept shooting until no more ammo, or no more movement.
 
i agree with catwoman- i would shoot until they're all dead

and took my delicious elk meat home
wolves are sport killers and need to be down sized
 
If Catman got CATWOMAN a mini-gun for christmas would there be any safe wolves?
I'd go along just to watch. LOL
 
If Catman got CATWOMAN a mini-gun for christmas would there be any safe wolves?
I'd go along just to watch. LOL

A mini-gun....I'd need an AR. :face-icon-small-sho Though I do typically carry 2 extra clips with me for my S&W .40.

They'd be safe as long as they didn't threaten my safety, or the safety of my family or friends.

I did just find out we are down 2 wolves. One was found along the NF road today, gutshot. Another was found Wednesday Whitefish direction.

And NO, it wasn't me....LOL. I've not been either direction lately...been here on SW. :)
 
Way more fun then an AR. You will need only one magazine.

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You should see the pile of wolf crap I saw yesterday. (We did see some old wolf tracks in the snow too).

I set my glove down by it and took a picture. It was a 3 foot long and 2 foot wide PILE of wolf crap.
I’d say they come and mark that place all the time. It was a HUGE pile of schit.




JUST got this in email:


http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/maps/NRWolfPacks.pdf

And remember it’s not considered a “pack” unless it’s a “breeding pair”, which has an alpha male and alpha female AND has at least 6 members.

So a "pack" is actually 6 wolves that are producing pups.
 
A mini-gun....I'd need an AR. :face-icon-small-sho Though I do typically carry 2 extra clips with me for my S&W .40.

They'd be safe as long as they didn't threaten my safety, or the safety of my family or friends.

I did just find out we are down 2 wolves. One was found along the NF road today, gutshot. Another was found Wednesday Whitefish direction.

And NO, it wasn't me....LOL. I've not been either direction lately...been here on SW. :)
where abouts whitefish direction.. my folks just built a new place right near the entrance of the trumble creek road, the backyard is like 1/4 mile from the timbersports expo place... nothing but stoltz and FS land from them all the way to the border.. I am betting there are plenty of those suckers running around there.. I wouldnt mind them not being there.
 
A mini-gun or a wolf? LOL

Well I was talking about the gun...but I wouldn't mind having a wolf tag! :face-icon-small-ton

where abouts whitefish direction.. my folks just built a new place right near the entrance of the trumble creek road, the backyard is like 1/4 mile from the timbersports expo place... nothing but stoltz and FS land from them all the way to the border.. I am betting there are plenty of those suckers running around there.. I wouldnt mind them not being there.

West of Whitefish is all I know. The gal didn't comment further on where they found it. I'll see if I can get any further info.

I'm sure these things are everywhere. There are just too many of them....and for the amount of territory they like to claim/cover, they have to be closer and closer to the towns. Let's hope that they get pulled back off of that list again soon! I know we'll see more challenges if they do...Defenders of Wildlife is running a campaign on saving the wolves (again, new method). You get to *adopt* a Mom and pup with your donation....and of course they have the cute cuddly picture to go along with that, instead what things are truly like. :face-icon-small-dis
 
This came in email today.
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Scary true Idaho story about Hunters being stalked by Wolves!


I thought you would like to read this account of being chased by wolves. Josh Collins is a friend of mine and was part of this party. They saw almost no game on the entire trip. Josh thinks the wolves were approaching them because they are running out of food.

Good morning guys,
We packed into the Selway-Bitterroot wilderness area on a hunting trip in September. We had the unfortunate experience of being chased by wolves. Very unnerving... read the story Jason put together.

http://www.lobowatch.com/WolfImpact.html

Josh Collins

 
I just spent 15 days hunting in the Salmon region in Idaho. Been hunting there since '02 and I hunt with a guy that's been there since the '50's. This will be our last year in the area due to the wolves. I've never been threatened and I haven't heard of any other humans being threatened, but they are destroying the elk population in Idaho. It's been getting worse each year especially since '05 and the last 2 years have done me in. After 15 days of hunting we only saw 17 elk, all of which were dead from wolf kills. The wolves are wiping out the Elk, the deer however are doing fantastic. A wolf won't target a deer when Elk are around. Deer take too much energy to chase down and there isn't much meat to eat for their efforts. Elk provide an easier chase, and more food once they've got it down. And the wolves are dirty killers. A cat will kill it's food before it starts to eat it. Wolves just pin the prey down and start eating it alive.

Those who are out to protect the wolf and keep it on the endangered species list really are clueless. Fill free to debate the fact, but if you really want to know, get out in the mountains for days on end and see what monsters we've brought back into our back yards. I came across a bloody patch of snow where I assumed something had been dragged along. I thought it odd that a hunter was in the same area as me due to the nasty location. Curiosity got the best of me and I followed the bloody drag trail where I found a young elk calf. It was still alive, dragging itself by the front legs b/c the hind quarters were ate apart and the lower back muscles were ate as well. It couldn't have happened too long due to the poor calf was still alive. Right or wrong, I had to shoot the little guy with my pistol to end it's misery. I backtracked the blood trail to the location where the attack took place. Wolf tracks in the snow. No telling how many, but I'd say more than 6 wolves because there were at least 6 sets of tracks leaving the scene, some could have been trailing another wolf. That little calf wasn't big enough to satisfy at least 6 hungry wolves. Sport kill? Maybe I scared them off? Regardless, this is the second time I've seen this situation, the other time it was a doe.

I know the wolf tag I purchased in July wasn't any good after the Federal Judge put the wolves back on the endangered species list. I'd sure like to go camping with that guy and take him for a few hikes during our trip. I'm a defender of wildlife. I'll defend our wild Elk, moose, deer, black bears, mountain lions and all other critters living in the mountains from these killing machines. Heck, even the little black tailed squirels that normally scream their lungs out when they see you won't even make a peep anymore.

Even if we de-list these beasts and treat them as predators, it will take decades to thin down their numbers.

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Sorry, I have some pic's of the elk kill and wolf tracks in the snow but I'm having issues getting them to download on SW from my camera phone. I'll keep trying.
 
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Found on huntingwashington.com today





http://hunting-washington.com/smf/i...lies=17;sesc=83d9cd897b8e434a4efa2f52ef514a79 I had a friend e-mail this to me. I have all the contact info if anyone is currious to learn more. I just didn't want to throw out all his personal info on the web.

The Wolves
It was the third day of our hunting trip with Birch Creek Outfitters. Terry Robinson, Josh Collins and
myself, were in the Selway with Don Chlarson, our hunting guide, hunting Bull Elk. We walked from our
camp down ‘The Spur Trail’ heading for some meadows and ‘The Rock’. We left Terry at the first set of
clearings and meadows to watch for elk, deer and bear (our hunt was a combination hunt, allowing us to
get any one of these animals). Don, Josh and I continued down the canyon to the next open slide and
meadows. Josh stayed here to hunt this area while Don and I continued onto ‘The Rock’.
About 200 yards further down the trail, Don and I came up on some bear tracks that seemed to be
heading to ‘The Rock’. We assumed that this bear was heading to ‘The Rock’ after the remains of the
previous kill (two days prior to us hunting this zone, the other hunters in our group had killed a black
bear off ‘The Rock’). We moved very slowly down the trail looking for movement and listening very
carefully. We crossed several small streams and at one point saw a small brown animal (maybe a beaver
or mink).
The bear was a secondary objective. We were hunting bull elk and in doing so had shot out several cow
elk calls along the trail. We continued down the trail to ‘The Lower Rock’ about 200-300’ below the
main lookout. We looked around this clearing for about 10 min. and then moved into the trees. To get
up on ‘The Rock’ we climbed the hill side toward the back side of ‘The Rock’. There is a small meadow
back there, then a group of thick trees and bushes to pass through on the way out to the lookout/cliff
edge at ‘The Rock’. As we stepped out to the edge and began scoping the area for elk, we called out a
few more cow calls, hoping to excite a bull into the open. After seeing no real movement, we started to
relax and get settled for a few hours of waiting and watching. We set down our packs, drained our
bladders and tried to get comfortable (I set a Way Point on my GPS for the 3rd day of hunting at about
this time – 10:45am). We both found a nice spot along the cliff edge to view the area.
About 15-20 minutes after settling down, Don shot out another cow call. Nothing was moving… Don
took off his boots to relax his feet a bit and to set up his GPS. I went up to a log (about 15ft away, near
the bushes) where I had left my pack, to get a sandwich, and return to the cliff edge to continue to look
for movement.
This next part happened very quickly, within 5 minutes:
Don was watching the hill side just to the right of ‘The Rock’ and suddenly sat up and pointed out a wolf.
This wolf was about 50 yards away. He was big, real big… I was amazed at how big he was. I always
thought of wolves being just slightly larger than a German Sheppard. But this wolf was more like a Great
Perinese (probably 3 ½ feet tall at the shoulders). He was black with some brown stripes on his side. He
was sneaking into the tree line when we noticed him and then was gone. Don and I were on high alert,
watching to see if we could see where he went. A couple of minutes later we heard a wolf ‘whooping’
and ‘yipping’. At first I was not sure what it was, I had never heard wolves in the wild like that. Then we
saw the next wolf (slightly smaller, but still bigger than I thought they were). This wolf was much closer,
about 50 feet from us. We were shocked, how did we not see it? It moved in so quiet… But it was way
too close for comfort. The wind was blowing up over the cliff from behind us and into the wolves. They
knew at that point we were people and not a cow elk. Don was on his feet, with his pistol out. I was up
and had my rifle up in ready mode and looking through the scope to find the wolf. Don said we had to
get out of there. We heard something big in the bushes behind us, then several sounds in different
locations in those same bushes. They were cutting off our escape route! We had nowhere to go but off
the cliff (about 100-200 feet straight down). Don turned and aimed high and left of the wolf and in rapid
fire, shot out 12-15 rounds from is 9mm. Within the first 2-3 shots, 3 other wolves stood up! We did
not even see them. They were all within that same distance of about 40-50 feet. But the gun shots did
not scare them. They just headed into the trees, curving toward us as they came. I was scared and
decided to let loose a round from my gun, thinking it was much louder; a bigger caliber gun would make
them run. I shot about 2 feet behind the last wolf (BOOM). And he did not even flinch… He walked up
to a rock and stood his front legs on it, staring at me. An image I can’t get out of my head. He was all
black with his pink tongue hanging out, just staring at me like I was his target. I jacked in another round
and pulled up on him again. The cross hairs of my scope on his head and not much else in the viewing
area (I thought, wow, he is way to close). “Don, I can take him out! Can I shoot him?” I said. Don quickly
responded “No, don’t shoot him”, and then the wolf walked into the bushes, following the others.
Don slipped his boots on and told me to grab my stuff and that we had to get out of there, NOW! I was
scared to go up by the bushes and get my pack, the wolves were right there, we could hear them. With
both of us ready to shoot we ran up and got my pack and jacket. At some point here I remember seeing
Don’s hands shaking and I knew he was as scared as I was. I remember shoving my gloves and GPS into
the pack and then we headed down the right side of ‘The Rock’. It was steep and I was thinking “don’t
slip… they are still coming…”. We hurried down the hill to the trail out of there. We had gone about
100 yards down the trail (almost running) before we stopped for a breath. We whispered back and forth
about how unbelievable it was to have them that close. About then I heard something moving on the
hill above us about 30 yards away. Don did not hear it but we started moving again anyway. About 75
yards further down the trail we heard the ‘Yipping’ again, just up on the hill about the same distance I
had heard it before. They were following us, hunting us! Don made me go first down the trail thinking if
they attack, it will be from behind and he wanted to make sure I was safe. When we got to the first
stream we saw that there were wolf tracks on top of our foot prints in the mud from earlier that
morning. The wolves had followed us in, and now, were chasing us out! We continued to move quickly
up the trail. At the next stream we saw prints again, following us in and now they were going the other
way as well. They were behind us, beside us on the hill and now we knew they were in front of us as
well! PANIC!!! We moved up the trail as if we were moving through a war zone jungle, both of us ready
do battle at any point, safeties off, guns loaded and fingers on the trigger.
Josh had the other 2-way radio, so I radioed ahead to let him know we were being hunted and that
there were wolves all around us and between him and us. I told him to be on high alert and be ready
when we got there. We were heading back to camp, now! After picking up Josh and heading to get
Terry we heard them again, behind us and still too close for comfort. As we approached the meadow
where Terry was we did not see him in the tree line where we had left him. Instead he was standing on
a set of large rocks in the middle of the meadow. He explained that he had fallen asleep along the tree
line and had been woken up by the sound of wolves. The yipping and howling was close enough to
wake him from a dead sleep. With his back against a tree, he had seen a large black wolf run through
the trees (about 75 yards away) toward ‘The Rock’ and heard several others moving around him. He
decided it would be better to put some distance between him and the tree line in case they got any
closer. We talked for a few minutes and put times together. Things did not match up, the wolves he
saw were there at the same time Don and I were shooting on the ‘The Rock’. We had two groups of
wolves in this same valley with us! We started moving toward camp again. About 200 yards out of that
meadow, we heard them howling and yipping no more than 75 yards away. They were still chasing us!!!
We made it back to camp in record time. We did not see them again but could hear them howling,
yipping, and barking, for the rest of the night. About 4:30am the next morning they all lit up and
howled, barked and whooped together for about 30 seconds (which seems like an eternity when this is
happening, in the dark, in the back country) and then they were gone.
Some hind-sight thoughts:
The wolves moved in very quickly and very quietly. Unbelievably quiet, the only thing we really heard
was a few whoops and yips from the Alpha wolf up on the hill. It was like Morse-Code and he just lined
them up in a way that was most effective for a kill. I am sure that they thought they had a cow elk
pinned against that cliff and that they were going to eat. By the time we saw them, the Alpha wolf
already had them worked up into a feeding frenzy. They were going to kill something and did not care
what it was. Even after they could smell us and knew that we were people and not an animal. That is
down-right scary to me, being a born and raised Idahoan. I have spent most of my life in the Idaho
wilderness, hunting and fishing in the Stanley and Challis areas. This event has opened my eyes to the
VERY REAL DANGER that the Northern Grey Wolf presents to the people of Idaho. I no longer feel
comfortable going into the wilderness unarmed.
Seeing first-hand how quickly the wolves moved in on a ‘cow elk’ amazed me. This should be the elk rut
and the bulls and cows should all be “talking” right now. We used an elk bugle several times during the
week long hunt and did not receive a single response. I believe that the elk have learned that by making
any noise they put not only their own lives in danger, but the rest of the animals in the valley in danger
from these predators. We did not see any Mule Deer or any Whitetail Deer the entire week. What is
happening in our precious wilderness areas? We must gain control of this so called endangered species.
Feel free to contact me to discuss this wolf encounter.
 
Wolves are something that always tick me off when we go to Cooke.
You will be driving along seeing herds of elk and buffalo, no spectators. But you come up to a big group of cars with cameras with two foot long lens taking pictures a wolf:face-icon-small-fro


I seen my first wolf on my property in 1986. It took until 1995 before the DNR would acknowledge the wolves were this far south.
Now we are going through the same thing with Mountain Lions. I skun out a doe that was killed on my land and buried with leaves and grass in 2003. You could seen the Cats teeth marks on the bottom of the throat when you turned the hide inside out.
Every time a sighting or picture get reported. They say it's not a Cougar or it's a tame one thats been let loose.

All I can say is tranquilize and relocate.
 
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