Wireless ABS System! Awesome for the Mountains!

[m8magicandmystery]

say one guy is riding through some tight tress when this gets set off and now the bags deploys and as it does it catches the branches and pulls the rider off and or rips the bags as he goes through them.

Thats all.

hahaha..that poor guy has the type of luck that he was going to total his sled hitting a tree anyway..poor guy would always have that little cloud over his head..

 

[Norona]

Good points. I hadn't thought about that.

One other thing to think about though. What if i am the one on the hill that gets caught in the avalanche and i pull my chord and now it sets off the others in the group even though they are in a safe place. or say one guy is riding through some tight tress when this gets set off and now the bags deploys and as it does it catches the branches and pulls the rider off and or rips the bags as he goes through them.

I am just throwing these out there to see if these issues have been addressed or thought about before. I think the product can be a great thing i can just see a couple problems that could arise. Thats all.

If you decide to hill climb and of course your are the only one going as per the one guy on the hill at a time, then you just hit the button on the wireless and it takes you out of the alliance so if you get caught and pull your bag, the others that were previously in your alliance, there bags do not go off...this was stated in the video although I used a skier as an example. However the rest of the alliance can still set off your bag as they watch you climb,

If a bag was set off as you were riding through the trees by accident the best part of the abs system is that the bags are behind you and you are still able to ride and have all your vision, the bags also sway on the insert poles so they would get banged back behind you and although the bags are light they are made of strong raft material, they can withstand a lot of brut force.


All good questions and these types of questions are great as they will help fuel a better system.

 

[Norona]

I understand you can deflate the bag. I do have the ABS Bag. But lets say you have an extra cartridge and handle between friends. If I just deployed a bag which just set off all 4 bags in the group, wouldn't we all need to carry an extra handle and cartridge for each person? I think that is a good idea anyway but a lot of people don't have packs big enough to carry that plus their survival gear they need. All I am saying is it is a great idea concept but in my opinion I would like the option of being able to set off someone else's bag without mine going off as well. If it is sending a wireless signal, why could that not be a possibility?
Its just that even if it is time to return and go home for the day. That avalanche may have happened 20 miles from the truck and we may have to cross a dozen or more avalanche paths to get back to the truck and i just don't want to deploy my pack if it is unnecessary.

I hear you but right now the wireless is 300 meters or just over 900 feet, most of the time you watching would or could be in the slide path, the average sledder might think he is safe a lot of the time but depending on conditions the run out could go further than expected or in a split second a small avy could drop down, propagate into a larger slide and this could happen in seconds so with the person watching being in that situation it is good their bag goes off, but totally hear your concerns and the future may have that.

Like I said above, it is easy to take your self out of the alliance or go back in...

 

[Yamadoo04]

So after looking on Google earth and looking at how far 900 feet realy is (Google earth is so cool) I can see that most of the time (if you are riding in a safe maner or in other words practicing safe riding in AVY country) when the guy on the hill sets off his bag most likely you should be more than 900 feet away from them. 900 feet is not that far away. But in there are many hills that you would be in range even in a safe place.

 

[Scott]

So after looking on Google earth and looking at how far 900 feet realy is (Google earth is so cool) I can see that most of the time (if you are riding in a safe maner or in other words practicing safe riding in AVY country) when the guy on the hill sets off his bag most likely you should be more than 900 feet away from them. 900 feet is not that far away. But in there are many hills that you would be in range even in a safe place.

I see your point and I understand what you mean...BUT in the grand scheme of things though, how is it LESS helpful than what can already be done. It's not a hinderence.

If the avy trigger/victim is out of 900 feet range, you can't set off your buddy's bag...but what could they do without the system? You can hope he fires it himself.

The system just allows a little more help from bystanders within 900feet.
IMO, having it is better than not having it. It is another option to possibly help a bad situation, but not the ultimate solution to the problem.