wich sled is the best for backcountry
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Is that one of those OLD Edge chassis from the 90's?
Yep, I've never seen one on the hill but always see them in the shop! The one I saw had carbon trailing arms (don't buy a sled with trailing arms!) and a belt drive.
If you are going to trash someones product then tell us why? What is wrong with the belt drive? What is wrong with the light weight trailing arm? How does it compair to the A-arms on the CMX Rocket?
If you are going to trash someones product then tell us why? What is wrong with the belt drive? What is wrong with the light weight trailing arm? How does it compair to the A-arms on the CMX Rocket?
I did tell you why. I stated that the only time I've seen one is in the shop for repairs (I don't know why, just made the observation). I also did not say there was anything wrong with the belt drive. I think it's best to get a sled w/o trailing arms and jump up to true independent front suspension.
I've seen these on the hill. If you have the money these sleds would be up top for the best back country sleds. The carbon fiber trailing arms were used to reduce the weight of the sled. In order to go to A-Arms they had to change the bulk head. That added weight. Last I looked during the winter there was a brand name sled in every shop. These are the lightest/HP sleds on the market. As for any MOD sled you have to take care of it and they will break down. If you don't like trailing arms come hop on his ROCKET. It is a 435 pound turbo.
How much of that IFS suspension do you think you are using in the powder? As for the belt drive, it does hang down a little, but have you ever moved a sled around in the garage by hand with one and one without? I have. There is a big difference. Not saying it is the best sled for everything, just really light, powerfull, and easy to whip around in the trees. I do also own a IFS sled, but it is a little heavy!
I never said there was anything wrong with the belt drive or the carbon being used to reduce weight. If you go back to my original post, I just said that sled has both (an observation). The only things I said bad were that the one I knew of was always in the shop and that trailing arms suck. C'mon, they do...how much travel did you guys have on the old style sleds compared to today's sleds? Don't be so defensive because you or your buddy has a CMX.
You're telling me that if you had roughly $7000, you would buy a CMX? Sounds like you are trying to sell the wrong sled to someone.
You're telling me that if you had roughly $7000, you would buy a CMX? Sounds like you are trying to sell the wrong sled to someone.
If you are going to trash someones product then tell us why? What is wrong with the belt drive? What is wrong with the light weight trailing arm? How does it compair to the A-arms on the CMX Rocket?
I've ridden with one before so I will give it a shot; When you break a carbon fiber trailing arm (and they aren't hard to shatter) there is alot of money involved and you better have a few extra with you because no one will have one. The belt will break if it ever gets loose or you land a jump with your thumb on the throttle. I speak from experience, the guy I was with broke one in Dubois (jumping), put his spare on and promply broke that one too. He did eventually find another guy in town that had a CMX and borrowed one from him. It took about a day and a half of riding and mucho $ out of his vacation.
Not trying to sell anything just responding to your "observation". You opened your mouth and now your panties are in a wad. You saw a sled in the shop and drew conclusions. I just don't think you have a clue. You say $7000??? That plus your last new sled won't touch one. I am real sorry if I upset your soft little tummy. I'll try to be more like you, "POOs suck because I saw one in a shop". That sounds as stupid as what you said. I'm neither defensive nor bothered by what you have said. So let me end by saying the same thing as you "JMO".
Look, I understand what you are saying. These sleds are built for light weight and power only. The carbon fiber was used for weight reduction period. I agree that if you hit something they will shatter. I use to ride a doo with trailing arms. When I hit something I collapsed a trailing arm. So did a lot of people. I and they had to go to a dealer to buy or order one. When CMX came out trailing arms were the norm. CMX now has A-Arms but they added weight. People spend big bucks on reducing weight. As far as the belt drive it eliminates the power robbing chain drive. It is an efficient system. Oh, just so you know I had to replace the serpentine belt on my truck. It is called preventive maintenance. How many miles were on your buddies belt? How old was the spear and was it carried in the engine compartment? What does heat and age do to belts? I think your buddy spent twenty some thousand dollars on a sled and didn't think it needed regular maintenance like the brand name ones us peasants ride. Just my opinion.
The spare was kept in the trailer, so it was like new. The trailing arm shattered on something that would have (IMO) just bent a metal one. No doubt the CMX could go places the factory sleds couldn't, But the factory sleds went more places on this trip because they never broke.
The title of this thread is "what is best for backcountry" Not "what will go the highest on the hill"
In my experience the factory sleds are more reliable and that is one of the requirements in the boonies
The title of this thread is "what is best for backcountry" Not "what will go the highest on the hill"
In my experience the factory sleds are more reliable and that is one of the requirements in the boonies
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Not trying to sell anything just responding to your "observation". You opened your mouth and now your panties are in a wad. You saw a sled in the shop and drew conclusions. I just don't think you have a clue. You say $7000??? That plus your last new sled won't touch one. I am real sorry if I upset your soft little tummy. I'll try to be more like you, "POOs suck because I saw one in a shop". That sounds as stupid as what you said. I'm neither defensive nor bothered by what you have said. So let me end by saying the same thing as you "JMO".
My soft tummy? Who came out of the woodwork to biotch because I didn't worship the CMX? I didn't even say it was a bad machine, just that I the only one I've seen in existence is constantly in the local shop. If you can't have a civil discussion w/o crying then ask the mods to open a CMX thread so you can worship your trailing arm sled to others. Now you say they are over $7000? What a deal!!!
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I don't agree Clodhopper from Iowa. Where is your suggestion on a back country sled? Or don't you have an opinion and you just like to criticize those who do. The last time I was out things broke on all sleds. Broken parts are not sled specific. Last time I was out the back country was not the corn fields of Iowa. Back country is a place where the posers aren’t. The reliability of a sled, for the most part, is a direct relationship with the commitment of the owner. Things break. If you are not willing to take care of your ride then you need to walk. I have seen new Yamaha's rip the track in half, cranks twist on Polaris, rails fold on cats. These are things that happen when sleds go to and playing in the back country. When you go to the back country you tax every piece on the sled and even the rider. I have seen broken arms, legs, ribs, cuts and burses. This thread is about the best backcountry sled not the most reliable sled that will not break down. They all have problems.
I, like you, have not given my opinion on the best back country sled. So here it is. The rider is the best back country sled. Any brand will get you there but the BRAINS of the rider will get you back. He has to know not only his limits but those of his sled. He has to be able to read the land and know where not to go. He must maintain his sled the best he can. It is not his right to endanger his friends or search and rescue. He must be prepared for anything when he drops over that next ridge. If he is a back country rider on a back country sled he must do all this to preserve the back country riding for our future. The name on the side of the sled means nothing. Most all back country sleds will have some kind of mod either showing or hidden.
That is my opinion.
If you are going to trash someones product then tell us why? What is wrong with the belt drive? What is wrong with the light weight trailing arm? How does it compare to the A-arms on the CMX Rocket?
I just replied to your question and you got all worked up.
I will give you my recomendation if you want it (you did ask for it)
A ski doo 800. They are light, will go just about anywhere you need to go, and they are a little more agile than the M's because of the shorter wider track. I ride an M and it's ok too. I just don't like Polaris, nothing against the riders or snowmobile-just the corporation and haven't ridden a Yamaha since 1978
Ok, you can flame on now.
OK here is the guts of the matter! You asked for the ultimate and we think that this one will be a strong contender. But you also asked for stock...so disqualified! Where do we sign up for the "VERY IMPROVED" catagory?
Here is the 09 and 2010 Champion..... (you can almost see the 08 champ as well)
I call this one a heck of a victory lap!
Here is the 09 and 2010 Champion..... (you can almost see the 08 champ as well)
I call this one a heck of a victory lap!
Rob, awesome sleds. Nice looking country. D and I are actually gonna make a couple sleddin' trips this year! 
MikeW, the best piece of gear a backcountry rider can have is a calm head. These are just peoples opinions, which were asked for. We aren't pickin' out your Daughters future husband here, we're just BS'n.
Breath in, Breath out.....
Man, we all need some snow........
Bag
MikeW, the best piece of gear a backcountry rider can have is a calm head. These are just peoples opinions, which were asked for. We aren't pickin' out your Daughters future husband here, we're just BS'n.
Breath in, Breath out.....
Man, we all need some snow........
Bag
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Many of you may think Rob is full of HOT AIR talking up his sleds. I can speak from experience, That 09 800 pictures is a real ripper. It pulls as hard as any N/A sled I have ever ridden and it fit me like a glove. The Holz setup along with RSI bars makes it a dream to ride. I can't wait to hop on his 2011 when he gets it put back together. End of Story!!!!
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