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Why is my REV so unpredictable on edge?

When I'm sidehilling or messing around on the hardpack it seems like my sled wants to flop back down to flat. My 02 RMK would just ride around on an edge forever, pow, hardpack, parking lot, whatever.

My REV falls over fine (10" riser, no sway bar, narrow stance) but then it seem to fight me more to either "schithook" or lay back down, I can't just ride it around on an edge?

Has anyone experienced this and figured out how to add more "secondary stability"?
 
Are you running the stock sidehiller ski's? I don't do much sidehilling on hardpack but my skinny simmons seem to stick an edge pretty good. But who really knows ... could just be the wider track or just the ergo's of the sled.
 
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Yah, I'm running the stock skis. I like how wide they are but maybe thats what is pushing the sled down so hard.

On my RMK I could make nice turn comming down a face, I could even slide sideways down things on my butt! Now downhill turns feel so committing that I'm missing some good lines, I can only pull off real "downhill skiing" turns in very deep pow.

Do aftermarket skis really help this situation?
 
I warm up the Sawzall before I even let a new sled out of the truck!

My sled falls over fine, but my RMK didn't fight so hard to flatten out when making turns. I could make nice countersteer turns on downhill HARDPACK with my RMK, and now I'm struggling to make nice downhill turns even with a foot of pow on the REV. It seems to either like to either fall all the way over, or pull hard back down to flat.
 
thats the rev...

tough to get 'just' right consistantly.

after a few years i still over carve and get stuck, or dump it on its side.. :P but i'm a noob. :(

i do think track has something to do with it.. and yes i argued from the otherside saying...but its only .5" more per side.. but would really like to see it proven either way (swap a 15" wide in place of the 16" and see what happens).


this is a big reason why i'm attracted to the M chassis's "handling", by what I've seen of it anyway..it will lay on its side all day long and keep crawling around the hill!
 
the rev is the 2nd easiest sled to throw around besides the 1M too me. ours still has a sway bar too.. but im a big boy. maybe change your technique, iv found a lot of people don tlike the rev for that reason, they say it "bucks" you around.. i dunno, i love it. and love it a lot more than the tippy feeling of the dragon and M.
 
had a 04 rev and tried the powder pros and hated them so i got some sidehiller 2 off a polaris :eek:and it was a huge improvement--i also tried removing the sway bar and found it to be very unpredictible :mad:so i put it back in.:D..jmo
the 06 and 07 x's were fine with the smaller sway bar and the pilot skis---08 is great
 
I know exactly what you mean. the xp sidehills great in deep pow but hardly at all in marginal conditions. I think this is just the xp. If you find a fix for it let me know please but I'm skeptical there is one.
 
flip the skii's left to right so the outer edge is on the inside. free mod and i noticed a good differance esp. on hard snow.
i have no problem with the way my Xrs handles/sidhills. IMO its better than my M8, the M just falls over easy yes but there is no inbetween.
 
i had a similar problem the first few rides on my rev coming from a zx chassis. once i really started committing to the moves, the sled really does what i want. I'm also 6'3 and 230 pounds so that might have something to do with it but the rev is a whole different set up than any of the older mountain chassis and i think the thing people have to learn is to committ to the move and then sled will do it.
 
Thanks for the beta guys... I think I'm just going to start backing off the shock springs until she loosens up. I just find it so easy to make nice turns on that dragon, i want my REV to turn like that but still be a REV!
 
I own and operate an XP 154 and was surprised that what you guys are describing happened to me also, so I spent the rest of the winter assessing the situation and heres is my conclusion:

THE SUSPENSION IS NOT THE CULPRIT; ITS THE SECONDARY CLUTCH!!

THE ISSUE:
When you go to sidehill, you hit the throttle to take pressure off the skis to lay the sled over at the same time that you are pulling on the bars to complete the movement. This sudden acceleration of the secondary clutch amplifies the gyro effect and "snaps" the sled back to its original skis-down-position. (this usually tries throwing you off the outside or gouging your ribs into the bar end). If you lay the sled all the way over and then gas it, it seems to want to hold that position until you get stuck on your side. Frustrating, isnt it?!
MY CONCLUSION:
The XP design has the highest secondary clutch on the market. This clutch is spinning when you lay the sled over to sidehill. This spinning action of the clutch acts like a large gyro whose effect is far greater than other designs because of the high clutch placement (versus say an M-series sled).
THE FIX:
It took me awhile to master but heres what you can do. When you throw the sled over to sidehill, try not to gas it until it is at least halfway on its side. Then, give it a little gas and let off and pull it over to the desired position. Then, give it hell and it will keep the sidehill position like a dream.
This technique fools the gyrating effects enough to allow you to predictably handle sidehilling maneuvers.

I know Im no expert on the subject but I hope this helps!:confused:
 
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