i rode with bret on two different occasions last season and chris once. The videos you see of them DO NOT put their skills in perspective. Anyone who says "so and so can def hang with those guys" hasnt actually seen them ride. I always thought the segments you see of them in videos was all the highlight footage... wrong. They are pulling amazing **** all day long and making it look easy. In the Schooled again video, the "stocker day" section was all shot in about a 6 hour day. George captured some awesome footage but a lot of the time we would get to a new hill and he wouldnt even have the camera set up yet and those two were already ripping. That was the third time i rode with bret last season and the first time i had ever seen chris ride and he manhandled that new pro rmk and it was his FIRST FULL DAY ON THAT CHASSIS. He pulled out two prototypes, a pro and an assault and got on them and made it look like he had been riding them all season. I will contribute some of that to the chassis being awesome but he was going the pro rmk, to the assault, to the m8, to a dragon all day and never even skipped a beat. Those two guys are unbelievable. I have always been taught that is is always someone bigger, faster, badder, etc but i have complete confidence saying that there is nobody out there that those two couldnt hang with. The only way i can really try and put it into perspective is.... there is a HUGE gap between an awesome amateur rider and two guys who snowmobile 120+ days a year.