live between lansing and flint. have been outwest a few times and love it. we just got back from togwotee. we were there all last week, had a blast. cant wait to go back. usually we ride northern ontarios backcountry to stay away from the racers on the trails in our own state. we've been riding there about 10 years now, and i have never saw more than 14 people in one day riding. now that we ride off trail we never see anyone. rarely do we ride in michigan anymore. if we do, it is grand marais and the offtrail areas there. we have a friend who grooms and works on search and rescue there. so, he knows all of the out of the way places and short cuts. ski