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Where else can folks stay in touch ?

So with things being what they are around here.............

Where else do you guys stay in touch at, share conditions, etc.

I thought this would be a good time to bring this up
 
SLedmods.com is owned by sledskiing, this is a LOCAL site that he pays for & would help support LOCAL riding instead of supporting some dude from canada or harris publishing.

A far better choice in my opinion.
 
SLedmods.com is owned by sledskiing, this is a LOCAL site that he pays for & would help support LOCAL riding instead of supporting some dude from canada or harris publishing.

A far better choice in my opinion.

i agree w/ ya.........i need to head over there too!! Kris/Chris? is a good dude, havent seen him on crowest lately.......how is this site you speak of, sLedMods.com........do they have booby pics?
 
Another option besides the other 2 mentioned that reaches a broader spectrum is Thumper Talk's new snow section. Great all around forum but a little heavy on the advertising, but that's what keeps it free too. They even have thier own parts store through WPS, Parts Unlimited, and OEM's for dirt stuff with a discount over retail for the members.

It's brand new over there and the mountain stuff is somewhat limited but it's also well run.

Personally I will most likely remain on all 3 of those sites and will have the "free" membership here. Although depending on when the changeover is I may have to pay to get access to maintain the forum ride which will piss me off to no end. It's anoying enough to have to make PJ edit the posts as donations come in since the almighty decided to lock that down now too.
 
i agree w/ ya.........i need to head over there too!! Kris/Chris? is a good dude, havent seen him on crowest lately.......how is this site you speak of, sLedMods.com........do they have booby pics?

You might need to talk to Chris about creating a few new sub-forums for boobies.

Yeah, it's not super active over there, things change quick when we get treated the way we are over here.

Myself, with people downsizing, losing jobs, the economy hurting...
It's more important than ever to support local efforts. If I can support a local forum & in turn, make use of the sponsors that are on there & will quickly answer questions if you have them, I'll do what I can.

Yeah, there's a little less BS factor on there, no points, no rep, just a community.
 
wow, and he appears!!! sledmods.com!!

i'll being logging in shortly to give my thumbs on this new section...

.its really sad we're all moving on to other 4Ms, while the family is 'closer' than ever...seems the colo peeps are a small clan after years on this site....tears, tears......... yet, closer than ever....peace out:heart:
 
This forum is what the members make it. Right?
I know some of you guys just want to tear it down. Since it has changed.
Yet some of you guys are so quick to toss in the towel.
I don't understand.
 
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This forum is what you members make it. Obviously you guys just want to tear it down.
Since you are all talking about going elsewhere. I don't understand. So they want to make it better, charge you very little, and give you so much more then what you have now.
Heck the past issues of magezines cost more then what they are charging. Yet you guys are so quick to toss in the towel.


YOU still get that Magazine... :eek:
 
This forum is what you members make it.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!!!!!!!!
But like you said, WE MEMBERS MADE IT and why would we pay for what we made????? SW is simply nothing more than a medium that was used, there are many more like it just so happens that this is the one that took off, and I'll bet money any day it was because of a lack of moderation and outside influence.

But to make it simple here are the main reasons this place will not be the forum of choice for many of us.

1. It's not about the money it's the principle of the matter.
2. HP is trying to either make money or support new gadgets that aren't needed off of OUR information and knowlege and then ask us to pay to give it to them.
3. It hasn't been the same as the good old days around here for around a 2 year shot or better. This is the straw that broke the camel's back.
4. There have already been some of the brightest and most talaented tuners/builders on here go on the record that they are leaving and not paying for the privilage to educate everyone. see Gus Bohne and Port Grinder.

So when the knowledge base leaves what's to pay for, to discuss what kind of oil to run and who makes the loudest can????? This may work out well and it may be an epic fail, I'm guessing the later. I know I'm no longer contributing tech info as I know it will be used to sell the site that I will not pay for. I may end up paying for 1 year, depending on what ends up being under paid and unpaid and when it goes into effect strictly to keep everything going for the 4M ride. other than that not gonna happen.
 
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The mods have a special filter in place that keeps them from hearing or understanding logic. (It's a new feature that Christopher installed for them)

Obviously after 1000's of posts trying to explain it, nothing that we say will make them understand.
 
This forum is what you members make it. Obviously you guys just want to tear it down.
Since you are all talking about going elsewhere. I don't understand. So they want to make it better, charge you very little, and give you so much more then what you have now.
Heck the past issues of magezines cost more then what they are charging. Yet you guys are so quick to toss in the towel.

Any chance in you going AWOL again?
Talk to us when you have been here for more than a few weeks. Most of us have been with this site through a LOT of changes and have stuck it out.
We also have given out tons of FREE local information on riding conditions, jetting, clutching, and even who to hook up with if you need a riding buddy.
You show up here a few weeks back with very limited experience and no sled asking US for advice.
Now you are a SUPER MOD (echo...echo) with chapped lips and want us to play nice with your new friends.

Make it better??? GIVE me so much more??? Bull,.... it will not be better just because we have a bunch of bells and whistles that NO ONE asked for.
If we lose guys like Mtndoo, ollie, and powder patrol it will create a huge void. Who is going to fill that void? YOU? THE BIG FOUR??? Be still my beating heart.
Christopher has stated that he is recruiting "real industry players" to join the forum.
And so what does that make us? FAKES?
What are these real players going to tell us that we can use in the real world?
The problem with those kinds of statements is that it infers that we do not know what we are doing and need some "real" HELP.

So please, go drink some more cool-aid and forgive us if we question our leaders. As a vet you put yourself on the line to give us the right to do just that.
 
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I tried to post this last night but it got deleted...don't know why since other sites have been thrown around on here and their posts haven't been modded.

New place to hang. Simple, effective, FREE!

PM me for the site address or check out the site in my address (can't post it since it either gets changed or deleted)

I have added mods to allow Youtube vids, Google Maps, and GPS files to be embedded in the post so we can give more accurate info. Check it out.
 
I'll be where my sleddin buddies/friends are. SW has been my home forum for 5 years and I've enjoyed the fellowship and tips i've found here, but i feel like i'm being cornered into an ethical dilemma, and i'm not exactly a model of morals and ethics! lol Guess I'm not doing to bad though, cuz I know something is fundamentally wrong here.

It's painfully obvious that all these "new" people taking over are having a hard time handling the situation, and have no problem abusing their "special buttons".

Note that I say "new". By that I mean to include the new people that have been here for years, but are now acting in a new way. To see these people who have been around for years now at odds with their fellows and participating in this new regime is upsetting.

I'm not generally a "hateful" person, but i'm really starting to hate this new regime and what it is doing to the fellowship that used to be pretty healthy on here.

I always thought of this forum as a good model for on-line forum interaction. People could say what they wanted and generally not be censored. And, when they were censored, the vast majority agreed with it. I used to hold the moderators and admin in high regard for running the best forum on the net (imo). They gave enough rope to the outliers to keep it interesting, but kept it clean enough for the general audience to enjoy. A great balance was maintained and again, my hat is off to them. I never realized what a fantastic job they did, but I do now.

And, when I say "special buttons" I mean the one's that say "stomp freedom of speech", "opress opinions", "re-write history (lie)", "poke fun of and abuse member", "humiliate member", "puff up my tiny ego", "fulfill my personal agenda"...I think you get the idea.

It's hard to express the disdain I have for people who use their privaledged position in these ways. The freedom to express opinion is sacred to me, but through witness of your actions, I can see that it is not held in high regard by this new regime.

When your regime started re-wording posts (lieing), changing user names (lieing), abusing members for disagreeing, and all the other un-ethical and morally decrepit behavior I have seen, I was stunned and thought those were isolated incidents that would not be approved of by admin. Now I see that the top admins condone this behavior and take part in it as well.

I would have doubted it before, as SW has always been sponsored by what I thought of as the moral and ethical people at HP, but now it appears as if the decreptitude may run higher up the ladder than i would have thought.

I would fully expect that when the powers that be at Harris Publishing take a closer look at how this regime is operating in their name, there will be some changes made in how the moderation/administration of this site is carried out.

Regarding all the new bells and whistles and servers, go for it, knock yourself out and make this site a model of....well, whatever your trying to accomplish. I don't care about that stuff and have no problem paying a nominal fee. I never be-grudge a man lining his pockets a little when he has something good to sell. The internet has spoiled a lot of us with all the free access, but I think SW is/was a premium site and worth a few bucks, at least.

Finally though, nothing you can offer will keep me here if you continue to abuse my friends and fellows who, while they may lie somewhat outside the bounds of the average membership, do bring a very important element of diversity to the forum that make this site that much more interesting.

I see what they do and how they love to badger you, but please, be judicious and prudent in your use of the "special buttons". Instead of distastefully "smacking" them down, take the high road and maintain your dignity. There are myriad ways you can maintain order and influence people without stepping on their human rights. Show them a basic level of respect in this regard and try to keep your personal feelings to yourself. I don't envy your jobs one bit, but if I was in your shoes, I would stick to a code of personal behavior that would not jeapordize the foundations upon which everything rests...allowing your brethren their fundamental human rights and respect. Endeavor to adhere to this basic philosophy and you will maintain the loyalty of the members. Fail to try and you will not see nor hear from the multitude of people who will choose not to be a part of this new forum... The average guy who doesn't make waves or stir the pot, but comes here for fellowship and advice or just to browse the site will see how you treat the dissidents and you'll awaken his quiet dissident, but the only notice you'll have from him is one less number on your bottom line.

How will it all work out in the end, anybody knows, but I wish you luck and success in making this forum as good as it can be and in bringing back the qualities that made it great.

Didn't start off planning to preach, but away we go...lol I'll post this where Chris may see it too.
 
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just my 2 cents, and I may get slammed, but anyway....
I dont post too much around here, by the way, but I do read the forums most every day during the season...

I dont like the thought of paying, and suspect the forums will go downhill, once SW starts charging....Motley Fool investment site did the same thing, back in 2001 or so, and it was never the same after that....

But on the other hand, I think they are only charging 9 bucks a year, if you get the 3yr subscriptions....that really isnt all that much, considering how much we spend on our precious machines....
 
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