It's a sales tactic to get rid of the 165's he has left because all the 155's (154's) have already been sold. 165's DO NOT handle like their shorter brother's. Something I have noticed over the years over here, guys with 165's always wish they had the 155's but never the other way around.
When the dealer tells you the new 165's handle like the 155's.
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Humm . .. that has not been my experience.
I have jumped back and forth between 155 and 165 and can say that there is no difference at all.
10" more track is just about 4" more actually on the snow.
Perhaps that depends on the rider or skill level or sled setup . . ?
I would take a 165 over a 155 any day . . . especially in the deeper powder.
I have jumped back and forth between 155 and 165 and can say that there is no difference at all.
10" more track is just about 4" more actually on the snow.
Perhaps that depends on the rider or skill level or sled setup . . ?
I would take a 165 over a 155 any day . . . especially in the deeper powder.
The 165" can hold a sidehill a little better, and obviously floats a little better. The 155" can wheelie better. Those are the only differences I notice. First ride on my 165" Khaos I accidentally pulled it over backwards so I have no problems sticking with the longer sled personally.
I started thread because of watching a dealer at a sno-park last season. Had three new 165's in various packages. Of the guys inquiring about them, I heard this over and over, " Do you have this one but in a 155?". Followed by "No, but the new 165's ride just like the 155's". That's all!
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There is a big difference as there has always been. Pros and cons each way. The new 165s might seem like 155s from umpteen years ago for the sheer fact new sleds are more nimble but then you're not comparing apples to apples. To say there is no difference is laughable.
The matryx is actually less wheelie happy than the Axys with the same track.
A 155 pro matryx is closer to a 163 Axys Khaos.
In the matryx 155>165 for fun.
Lame ski’s down riding (and the deepest 2% of days) 165>155
A 155 pro matryx is closer to a 163 Axys Khaos.
In the matryx 155>165 for fun.
Lame ski’s down riding (and the deepest 2% of days) 165>155
this i what i found, i ordered a 23 9R165 khaos and it was WAAAAAY to planted feeling coming off my 155 khaos axys. it quickly got cut down to a 155
146 is the new 155
136 is the new 146, next year it's all about the 121s!
So true. My kid has a 146 650 khaos and it is impressive - it would easily out climb a dragon 155.
I have a 165... I got it for two reasons -- First, I was getting a Khaos due to availability (there were no Pros in good colors or with the newer Series 8 track), and I wanted it to be less wheely-prone. Second, at the time I was planning to ride places besides California (Sierra Cement) and wanted an easier time of it. In soft snow, it handles and turns well. In Sierra Cement, yes it can be a pain. To turn it you really need to do the opposite-foot thing and tip it up on its side to make it turn sharply.
That being said, the sled is for sale not because it's a 165, but because I ordered a new Catalyst (in a 154, yes) because I will spend most of my time riding in California. If I can't sell the Khaos without a huge loss, I'll keep it for the super deep days (that out here we can count on one or two fingers). Or I'll put my daughter on it. It's insured.
That being said, the sled is for sale not because it's a 165, but because I ordered a new Catalyst (in a 154, yes) because I will spend most of my time riding in California. If I can't sell the Khaos without a huge loss, I'll keep it for the super deep days (that out here we can count on one or two fingers). Or I'll put my daughter on it. It's insured.
