Thanks for all the input, I just ordered a pair of klim klimate bibs. I will be wrapping the header so I don't burn them. Hopefully they will turn out nice
Klim Traverse pants are the way to go. Have used them in -26 degrees Celcius when riding with only a baselayer and knee protectors (Thor Force). Superb with leather on inside of both pants and the 4 vents that can be opened up for cooling. Superhappy with them together with my Klim Tomahawk jacket!
I was afraid of getting powder inside my back and up my legs, but the pants I close real tight against my Klim Adrenaline GTX boots and no snow in there. Same with waist, where the Anti Snow closure on the jacket stops all snow from getting in.
Truly super happy with them!
Under the Tomahawk jacket I only use a base layer and my protection jacket Alpinestars and a college shirt over. Works great down to -26 degrees celcius and the vents are worth A LOT on the jacket too, when one works up the temp when riding hard.
Rob