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What is the best replacement ski for summit expert?

We know there’s alternatives to the stock ski rubber. Was asking about an alternative to the Sly Dog Attack ski rubber. Their ski rubber doesn’t make it 500 miles.
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Ok, so .... I bought a set of Slydog Attacks and put C&A shaper bars with 4" carbides on them and tried them out last weekend on the Lynx ...

Quite frankly, they were terrible.

What carbides are you guys running on your Slydogs for off-trail use? This was so bad I literally didn't even want to finish the flipping ride yesterday I was getting so wore out from these skis ...

First, they don't float near as well as the stockers do, which isn't surprising because they're almost 2" narrower .... but, they don't catch an edge as well to initiate a carve either. I am assuming this is due to the fact that this is a shorter ski with a taper on the back?

These skis were riding me yesterday not the other way around .... I felt like they were way too aggressive on the "steering" side, meaning they wanted to pull me in directions I didn't want to go off-trail trying to pick lines through the trees, etc and trying to correct wound up being more difficult if not impossible in some situations.

IDK, I think part of this may be that I have a narrower front end with lift spindles so that was not playing nice with the skis, but honestly these Slydogs felt like I was riding a "trail ski" and not a back country ski .... IDK .....

Anyways, thought I'd ask about the carbides, but if those are the ones I am "supposed" to run on them, these skis are coming off and the stockers are going back on and they'll be for sale, I was thoroughly unimpressed with them.
 
Ok, so .... I bought a set of Slydog Attacks and put C&A shaper bars with 4" carbides on them and tried them out last weekend on the Lynx ...

Quite frankly, they were terrible.

What carbides are you guys running on your Slydogs for off-trail use? This was so bad I literally didn't even want to finish the flipping ride yesterday I was getting so wore out from these skis ...

First, they don't float near as well as the stockers do, which isn't surprising because they're almost 2" narrower .... but, they don't catch an edge as well to initiate a carve either. I am assuming this is due to the fact that this is a shorter ski with a taper on the back?

These skis were riding me yesterday not the other way around .... I felt like they were way too aggressive on the "steering" side, meaning they wanted to pull me in directions I didn't want to go off-trail trying to pick lines through the trees, etc and trying to correct wound up being more difficult if not impossible in some situations.

IDK, I think part of this may be that I have a narrower front end with lift spindles so that was not playing nice with the skis, but honestly these Slydogs felt like I was riding a "trail ski" and not a back country ski .... IDK .....

Anyways, thought I'd ask about the carbides, but if those are the ones I am "supposed" to run on them, these skis are coming off and the stockers are going back on and they'll be for sale, I was thoroughly unimpressed with them.

I have the 4" Woodys carbides. I have really liked the attack ski. I also have ice age spindles, QS3 front shocks and I run a ton of preload in the front track shock. I have not come across anything like snowmobile and snowmobile parts that is so subjective. Very few parts that you can say everyone will like...
 
I started the year with the Slydog Attacks on my 24 Summit X turbo. I hit a stump hard and wrecked the ski rubber, so I put on the stock DS3’s. It took a bit to adjust to the stock skis, and at the end of the day I just liked the Attacts better. The Attack ski does float better with it’s larger foot print.
 
I have an all black set Sly Dog Attacks with black loops, wear bars, and mounting kit for G5. One ride on them. I think I am in them close to $600. $400 pick up in Alpine WY.
 
My problem with the attack was super heavy steering. They also would punch through the crust and I'd eat bars.
I know I said it before but I ordered mine with plain wear bars but even though the package was labeled as such, the actual product had a 2 inch carbide
 
SLP Mohawks. Way better than slydog attack. Had them both, started with attack
And tried a buddy’s Mohawks. Had to buy some. Want my sly dogs?


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Looking for ski options on my 24 expert. Grippers, Mohawks seem to be top choices. Replacing ski rubbers sounds like a good plan. Anyone try cutting the ds4 tails and replace the ski rubber with an aftermarket brand? Salazzking or another. I’ve seen a cut template for the ds4 online. Might be a less expensive alternative. I think MY 25 have the newer version of the ds4 or now ds5? With the narrow tail design.
 
Looking for ski options on my 24 expert. Grippers, Mohawks seem to be top choices. Replacing ski rubbers sounds like a good plan. Anyone try cutting the ds4 tails and replace the ski rubber with an aftermarket brand? Salazzking or another. I’ve seen a cut template for the ds4 online. Might be a less expensive alternative. I think MY 25 have the newer version of the ds4 or now ds5? With the narrow tail design.

Throw in ski rubbers from shredder and cut the back of the ski to match ´25 models. I bet you will be happy and you spend less money. If not buy the grippers.
 
I got the salazzking ski rubbers and switched to Doo DS2 skis. Much happier.
 
A few of my personal thoughts on the matter, (I've only bothered to read the last page or so).

There is nothing wrong with the Summit skis, buy fuel and ride. The ski rubbers though......
Carbides/runners won't affekt the handling off trail, that's the ski profile's job. Over here most of the more serious off trail riders put on runners without carbide inserts. This due to us having less snow and a smooth runner will not catch on tree stumps and rocks as much saving the front suspension from lots of damage. Shop floors and trailers also like the absence of carbide inserts.
Have had smooth runners on my powder sleds for many years now and the only place I notice them being worse than the stock ones are on ice and plowed road, everywhere else no difference or better.
 
Excactly, ski rubbers are the issue not the ski itself. As far as I see, there are 2 options: Install Salazzking or shredder rubbers. Salazzking is double the money and harder to get, so we have used shredder rubbers and they work great. Needs a small mod to the ski to make it fit though.
 
I worked at lot at figuring out the shape and material recipe.
Test people who were able to ride a lot, I traded them new ones for used ones to see how mine were holding up. And super happy so far.
The material is superb. The material bulges with the right amount, not causing cracks.
The dampers were not really designed for center, but people did run them on center. Here is a set that was run on center for part of the winter out in Idaho.

The iSidehill dampers work damn good there Mister.
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