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What is it that makes most sledder right wingers?

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Snowmobilers generally live in rural areas, so they are self reliant and don't cry to the nanny state to fulfill all their desires. Snowmobilers are hard working people who produce goods and services that benefit society instead of sucking on the government tit. Sledders actually go into nature and experience it, instead of sitting in a Manhattan penthouse and blogging about it. Sledders believe in freedom, and liberals want to crush freedom. Pretty straightforward stuff...

Well put rubi, add to that, many sledders are self employed small bussiness owners. That right there will put you on the right. Sledders tend to think for themselves. Mountian riding in particular is all about the freedom to go out end enjoy the backcountry we all love. Free pepole and free thinkers are going to fall on the right of the political fence.
 
I like cheese, and pizza. My point is that the dems dont seems to be anymore responsible for this mess than the republicans.

Im a hearing that sledders are primarily blue collar people, is that right? ( which is a good thing to be IMO )

Alright, first rule of debating. Don't use vague terms. Let's study your statement structure. "My point is that the dems dont seems to be anymore responsible for this mess than the republicans."

dont should be don't.

responsible, is a word that does not fit within the context of political discussions.

"this mess" could mean anything. For example: I could say, yes democrats are primarily responsible for "this mess". In which unbeknown to you, I was equating "Obama" with "the mess". Which, I can reasonably deduce, was not the intent of your statement. But, I can not accurately deduce, what you mean by "this mess", by the structure of your sentence. By knowing what "the mess" is, I could probably deduce what "dems" and "republicans" your speaking of, since no two persons within either group think exactly the same.

Could you please at least feed us what "the mess" is?
 
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Alright, first rule of debating. Don't use vague terms. Let's study your statement structure. "My point is that the dems dont seems to be anymore responsible for this mess than the republicans."

dont should be don't.

responsible, is a word that does not fit within the context of political discussions.

"this mess" could mean anything. For example: I could say, yes democrats are primarily responsible for "this mess". In which unbeknown to you, I was equating "Obama" with "the mess". Which, I can reasonably deduce, was not the intent of your statement. But, I can not accurately deduce, what you mean by "this mess", by the structure of your sentence. By knowing what "the mess" is, I could probably deduce what "dems" and "republicans" your speaking of, since no two persons within either group think exactly the same.

Could you please at least feed us what "the mess" is?
Ambiguity is the desired effect or affect depending on your point of view.

I will use proper grammar and sentence structure, if it helps.

Point of fact, your last post added nothing to this "debate", and "this mess" is self explanatory.

I am more interested in your opinions than a debate.
 
"This mess" is NOT self explanatory. To the people who posted about land use as their main issue, I'd say that "this mess" would be the proposed congressional land grab. I doubt that a liberal would agree, since they love more federal control of everything.
 
Ambiguity is the desired effect or affect depending on your point of view.

I will use proper grammar and sentence structure, if it helps.

Point of fact, your last post added nothing to this "debate", and "this mess" is self explanatory.

I am more interested in your opinions than a debate.

Yes Ambiguity is a tool. Mostly used by those which intend to get their end goal, without ever actually saying anything which can be nailed as a position.

Oh and "Wasnt, the republican party in control of congress during the first term of Bush's Admin.? " adds to the debate?

So, us "right wingers" (your words) mostly are the way we are, due to the associations of the democratic party with forces opposed to us. My enemies enemy, is my friend. Or, my enemies friend, is my enemy. My point is, if the Democrat party left us alone, we probably would be able to move on to other topics, such as "the mess".

And no, "the mess" could be as broad as "the economy" or "the wars" or "the loss of freedoms" or "privacy" or "congressional spending" or "the housing market" or "the job market" or "the stock market" or "world opinion" or "energy" or "the financial system" or "wilderness creation". Sorry, I'm too analytical to suppose.
 
Naked aggression, Im am getting negitive reputation, for asking a fair question. How can you hope to be understood when all you offer is "naked aggression".

We might just fall into the type 'A' category. Denoted by a tendency towards aggression. You smacked the bees nest, deal with the stings.
 
Naked aggression, Im am getting negitive reputation, for asking a fair question. How can you hope to be understood when all you offer is "naked aggression".

"This aggression will not stand!"

Your reputation looks pretty green to me. Maybe it should turn red so it matches your politics.
 
Liberal,

I have a couple questions for you, just curious. What type of sled do you ride? Where do you ride? What branch of the military are you in or were you in? What type of work do you do, what is your occupation ?
 
will they keep out the snow???

You Americans are too funny.

What good is wine, when we are not allowed to drink.

Us "Americans", I suppose you use that as short hand for "North Americans". Seems to me, a lot of our brothers to the north are rather non-liberal.

How does this add to the debate?
 
We might just fall into the type 'A' category. Denoted by a tendency towards aggression. You smacked the bees nest, deal with the stings.
well said, that outcome was a forgone conclusion prior to starting this thread.
Naked aggression is easily forecast.:D And does have its time and place, along with many other useful communication tools.
 
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heres the deal .........true story

we pull into a restaurant ..6 guys ..each order breky...12 bucks a plate
"Granola" ... to the table next orders hot water to go with the T bag that he brought ..

at the the end of brekky we buy 150 litres of Gaz ...snacks, beer, snadiwiches..ect

dump a cool 400 hun .....sphincter boy spent 0 money....who do you think does more good to his fellow man ????
 
well said, that outcome was a forgone conclusion prior to starting this thread.
Naked aggression easily forecast.:D And does have its time and place, along with many other useful communication tools.

Yes, it is a diplomatic position, that is hard to ignore. "I'm parking a battleship off you coast, do you care to continue discussions?"
 
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