Weight loss?

[GoBigParts]

I cant wait to get an axys. I am working on loosing more weight. Healthy eating and excercise.

Now I need to work on that backpack. I already have a 509 carbon fiber helmet and fairly light gear. HMK peak 2 outfit and my HMK boots are pretty light.

 

[boondocker97]

You guys will be looking at the same thing I am with my Pro-lite sled right now. The easy weight is gone, now what to do for the most bang for the buck. My decision is to start cutting down rotating weight as much as I can, and any more weight that comes off of the chassis will start as far away from the roll axis as I can.

Removing rotating weight makes the engine/drive/track spool up faster and reduces gyroscopic effects. The arctic cat carbon primary clutch covers with Ti bolts are only a static loss of 0.8lb. At $650 the dollars/lb are pretty high, but you are getting a dual benefit from it.

The further the weight of a chassis part is away from the axis that you are rolling or tipping around, the more impact it has on the handling and effort required to move it. Lighter a-arms, Ti ski runners, Ti ski saddle bolts, lighter handlebars and steering stem, etc.

 

[mickyd32]

Cheapest weight loss is to tell your better half they're looking a little thick these days.

You have 2.5 months before snow check ends at the end of January to make up for it

In the mean time all the junk food will stop flowing into your cupboard. You'll be forced to eat celery that you dipped in water for sauce as your other half will be refusing to talk to you and will definitely not be making you dinner when you get home

Net loss 46 pounds, cost $128.46

You will also lose your clothing allowance. Forcing you to wear out your previous gear. Saving you $946.21 in new gear
, weight reduction 4 pounds when the soles of your boots fall off and your pants are mysteriously lost on the dryer

With the money you save on groceries you will be able to buy the trick new parts to drop another 24.6 pounds, costing you $1500.21

Weight savings : 46
4
24.6

Total: 76.6lbs

Costs: $128.46
-$946.21
$1500.21

Total: $138.46

That's a cost of $0.55 per pound. You can't afford not to do this!

Happy celery

 

[backcountryislife]

I was able to lose 50 lbs on the doo for under 3k... clearly that means it's a better machine

What fun would it be to have a sled that's even lighter than that... without even doing a darn can!!!

I'm thinking 20-25 lbs is reasonable for a decent budget, and will probably run about 2500-3k... netting you a sled that was a friggin unicorn not all that long ago unless you had a nearly unlimited budget.

I still will admit I don't trust their motors, but if it really makes within a few hp of the cat & doo... it's going to be so far ahead of the game it's silly without doing anything to it.

 

[icr]

BCL pointed out the obvious, 3k knocks 50 lbs off a doo. 3k might take 25lbs off an axys. But the axys will still be 25lbs lighter than the doo for the same money.

 

[LoudHandle]

BCL pointed out the obvious, 3k knocks 50 lbs off a doo. 3k might take 25lbs off an axys. But the axys will still be 25lbs lighter than the doo for the same money.

Is not the sticker price for the Doo $2000-$3000 more than the Polaris to start with? So for the same $ as BCL spent on his Doo, the Polaris buyer effectively has $5000-$6000 to spend on whatever he / she chooses. That is a huge amount of light weight aftermarket goodies to take the AXYS well south of 400#'s likely south of 380#'s, depending on what the aftermarket brings forward and the buyer's actual choices.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

So if the motor turns out to be a dud like all the doo and cat guys are hoping.
Use the money you saved not buying lightweight parts and rent a sled while your sled is getting its warrenty's worth at the dealer.

This also gives the benefit that you remember how much more work it is to ride a heavier sled and you appreciate the axys more.

Of course all this will never happen but I suppose worst case.
Bottom line is if you like to be on the leading edge of technology and ride the best there is.............
There really is only one sled that has all the ingredients to do this.

Barring some spectacular release by cat or doo anybody who can, would be silly not to be riding an axys.
Plain and simple.

 

[LoudHandle]

So if the motor turns out to be a dud like all the doo and cat guys are hoping.
Use the money you saved not buying lightweight parts and rent a sled while your sled is getting its warrenty's worth at the dealer.

This also gives the benefit that you remember how much more work it is to ride a heavier sled and you appreciate the axys more.

Of course all this will never happen but I suppose worst case.
Bottom line is if you like to be on the leading edge of technology and ride the best there is.............
There really is only one sled that has all the ingredients to do this.

Barring some spectacular release by cat or doo anybody who can, would be silly not to be riding an axys.
Plain and simple.

Or if anyone has any doubt as to the engine, used the $ to have Indy Dan Long Rod it from day one and remove all doubt. Still money and performance ahead of the other guys.

 

[backcountryislife]

Or if anyone has any doubt as to the engine, used the $ to have Indy Dan Long Rod it from day one and remove all doubt. Still money and performance ahead of the other guys.

The idea of having to spend that kind of money... to gain nothing is something so retarded that only a polaris customer could somehow justify that in their mind. That right there is proof of just how bad these motors really WERE. You'll notice nobody has anything like this for the other two motors

Hopefully WERE is the key word there, and the axys motor will be a different game.

As to price... I can get a doo for about 500 more, keeping in mind that if you want to RIDE that doo you need to add bracing & A arms, which run about 700, so it costs about 1200 more to have a intelligently set up doo. I like the way the doo rides more than the poo, but reviews I've heard personally from the new sled make me think the axys will be worth checking out. Wish the motor had more than one year on it, but it's been a good year for the flatlanders, so at least there are more miles on them this year!

 

[Bacon]

So if the motor turns out to be a dud like all the doo and cat guys are hoping.
Use the money you saved not buying lightweight parts and rent a sled while your sled is getting its warrenty's worth at the dealer.

This also gives the benefit that you remember how much more work it is to ride a heavier sled and you appreciate the axys more.

Of course all this will never happen but I suppose worst case.
Bottom line is if you like to be on the leading edge of technology and ride the best there is.............
There really is only one sled that has all the ingredients to do this.

Barring some spectacular release by cat or doo anybody who can, would be silly not to be riding an axys.
Plain and simple.

I'm a Cat guy and I hope the motor rocks cause I'm getting one. Still gonna have my turbo and my boys have their Cats. Gonna try this thing out. Put on the SLP pipe setup and have it ported. Then just ride the heck out of it. If the motor ends up being junk, I'll dump it. I'm never one to put down a sled till I try it myself.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

The idea of having to spend that kind of money... to gain nothing is something so retarded that only a polaris customer could somehow justify that in their mind. That right there is proof of just how bad these motors really WERE. You'll notice nobody has anything like this for the other two motors

Hopefully WERE is the key word there, and the axys motor will be a different game.

As to price... I can get a doo for about 500 more, keeping in mind that if you want to RIDE that doo you need to add bracing & A arms, which run about 700, so it costs about 1200 more to have a intelligently set up doo. I like the way the doo rides more than the poo, but reviews I've heard personally from the new sled make me think the axys will be worth checking out. Wish the motor had more than one year on it, but it's been a good year for the flatlanders, so at least there are more miles on them this year!

Cant argue on the motor issues.
The performance however of the indy specialty long rod however.........
A buddy has a well clutched 13 xm summit X and he wieghs 50# less than me.
I can pretty much pass him on the hill at will.

 

[tdbaugha]

Has Diamond S made the complete titanium exhaust yet? I saw them post that they would build it if there was demand.

 

[shattuck]

Barring some big upgrades by the competitors even if the new AXYS isn't any better then the PRO wouldn't it still the best mountain sled on the market? Not perfect just the best over all package. What will the guys riding other sleds complain about if this new motor is the real deal?

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Has Diamond S made the complete titanium exhaust yet? I saw them post that they would build it if there was demand.

I'm ready to pre order a ti exhaust.
Full pipe maybe?

Copy the slp (hint hint)

24# wieght loss, $1199.00

I'd bite.

Any horsepower gain would be icing.

With a Y pipe maybe 1400.

24.5# wieght loss.

408-24.5=383.5.

Lol bring out the 383.

 

[Danny Dangles]

Barring some big upgrades by the competitors even if the new AXYS isn't any better then the PRO wouldn't it still the best mountain sled on the market? Not perfect just the best over all package. What will the guys riding other sleds complain about if this new motor is the real deal?

They will just go back to the pro forum and slag the pros about all the engine troubles they used to have. They will be have no need to go into the axys forum. I will be very generous and say the T3 has 'caught up' with the PRO. So the way I look at it, by snowchecking an Axys you get 3 years of no slagging from doo guys while they update their trail sleds again......Pro riders will have to continue to listen to the same old motor jokes that doo riders never seem to tire of.

 

[wfieldin]

I'm ready to pre order a ti exhaust.
Full pipe maybe?

Copy the slp (hint hint)

24# wieght loss, $1199.00

I'd bite.

Any horsepower gain would be icing.

With a Y pipe maybe 1400.

24.5# wieght loss.

408-24.5=383.5.

Lol bring out the 383.

Add a lighter seat, FOX shocks and some lighter hardware, 375# easy!

 

[tdorval]

Are people seriously talking 24lbs off exhaust in ti? That's nuts. Likely more than what your thinking price wise though...

 

[boondocker97]

I bet it would be over $2,000 for a complete Ti exhaust. $500 can, $600 Y-pipe, $1000 expansion chamber. If you could squeeze 20lbs out of it you would would still be about $100/lb so not bad for cost of weight savings.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

I bet it would be over $2,000 for a complete Ti exhaust. $500 can, $600 Y-pipe, $1000 expansion chamber. If you could squeeze 20lbs out of it you would would still be about $100/lb so not bad for cost of weight savings.

True.
I would stick with just the can at that price tho.

 

[boondocker97]

True.
I would stick with just the can at that price tho.

I think the same thing. But on the other hand, I said i would never pay $1500 for a Ti exhaust on my race quad when I can buy a more durable stainless one for $600. Can you guess what ended up going on there?