Anybody know what the He** Washingtons new miracle drug is that they are putting on the roads? That stuff is horrible, it is eating thru the aluminium on the walls of my trailer where they are exposed to the road grime from the underside. I wash it every time we get back, top and bottom and it is kept inside the shop when not out riding. Just trying to figure out what will stop this stuff from turning it into an open trailer.
Washingtons miracle road drug
- Thread starter Pinned W F O
- Start date
Magnisuim Chloride
Mag Chloride is some bad stuff.It will eat your truck apart,take it to the carwash and you have to buff the truck hard to remove it from the paint.Who knows what it's doing to the parts of your truck/trailer that you can't clean or your wireing(sp).When I lived in Vermont cars would fall off their frames in 10 years from the road salt and humidity.
Does anyone else remember when plain old sand (without salt) was used?
I'm sure the roads werent dry nearly as soon as today, but you didn't cringe at the thought of the nooks & crannies that that corrosive crap was getting into.
Heck, the city streets were hard pack from Nov- March.
The problem is we all have placed such a premium on our time, that it isunacceptable to have to slow down for icy roads. And I would feel that way also if my job had me out on the road more.
I sure don't have the answer, but it sure sucks to see your $40,000 pick-up caked with corrosive residue.
With the knowledge & technology out there, we should have a more acceptable answer.
I'm sure the roads werent dry nearly as soon as today, but you didn't cringe at the thought of the nooks & crannies that that corrosive crap was getting into.
Heck, the city streets were hard pack from Nov- March.
The problem is we all have placed such a premium on our time, that it isunacceptable to have to slow down for icy roads. And I would feel that way also if my job had me out on the road more.
I sure don't have the answer, but it sure sucks to see your $40,000 pick-up caked with corrosive residue.
With the knowledge & technology out there, we should have a more acceptable answer.
T
Tackbtch
ACCOUNT CLOSED
Yes I remember!
Yuppers when I first moved to MT thats all there was, the state used sand and the county rd crew used 2 inch minus. Worked great, I belive with all the newbes moveing outa the city into the snow country to enjoy the "country life" ....well they just cant be bothered by driveing slower. The state started useing mag choride on the hwy going thru towns as a form of ice control and to lower dust that comes from sanding roads, when the roads dry out. Now they use it every where all the time. I for one wish they would go back to sand. Dino
Yuppers when I first moved to MT thats all there was, the state used sand and the county rd crew used 2 inch minus. Worked great, I belive with all the newbes moveing outa the city into the snow country to enjoy the "country life" ....well they just cant be bothered by driveing slower. The state started useing mag choride on the hwy going thru towns as a form of ice control and to lower dust that comes from sanding roads, when the roads dry out. Now they use it every where all the time. I for one wish they would go back to sand. Dino
Just a thought.
One issue with using sand is the initial cost. Most people wouldn't know this but we are suffering an aggregate (sand, gravel, etc) crunch. Mining restrictions, land developement and such have impacted the availability and cost. This is one of the main reasons concrete costs have gone through the roof.
G
Good to Go
Banned
FYI
They've always had salt mixed in the sand. Usually about 10% I believe. So it's always been on our roads. Without salt, the sand freezes and won't come out of the hoppers.
Chlorides are corrosive, hence, not allowed in structural concrete. Rusts the bar. Or in this case, your truck.
They've always had salt mixed in the sand. Usually about 10% I believe. So it's always been on our roads. Without salt, the sand freezes and won't come out of the hoppers.
Chlorides are corrosive, hence, not allowed in structural concrete. Rusts the bar. Or in this case, your truck.
Here in Denver, sand is not used much due to air quality issues (the brown cloud). liquid Mag chloride is usually used before storms or when temps are warm. Ice Slicer is a combination of 4 different chlorides (Mag, Pat, CA, and NA) and used during the storm. It looks like sand. In the end, it's still salt.
One problem around here is transformers corroding and blowing due to the chlorides. It's a necessary evil of today's society. Ditto the salt bad for concrete thing. I have a 50 year old driveway and it's fine except where my truck melts and drips on the concrete. In those spots, the finish is popping off (spalling). If you put in new concrete, tell the contractor you want at least a 4000psi mix. We have found the stronger mixes resist spalling better.
One problem around here is transformers corroding and blowing due to the chlorides. It's a necessary evil of today's society. Ditto the salt bad for concrete thing. I have a 50 year old driveway and it's fine except where my truck melts and drips on the concrete. In those spots, the finish is popping off (spalling). If you put in new concrete, tell the contractor you want at least a 4000psi mix. We have found the stronger mixes resist spalling better.
I would like to ssee this anti-corrosion additive that the state is claiming to add---This year alone---1 trip up with Tahoe--and washed right after getting home---had to polish the aluminum rims---Pickup wheels--1 trip up and washed when got home---Rust showing on NEW rims.
We should all send tyhe state a bill for repairs/replacement issues on our vehicles---ever looked at a polished tunnel on your sled after a trip up--even on a sled deck and washed when you get home---it is a joke!!
This stuff they are using is like instant rust or corrode!!
IMHO--plow the road and put down nothing!!! Maaybe it will keep some of the idiots off the highways up there.
I am with ya Kurt--This crap is unreal!!
H20SKE...
We should all send tyhe state a bill for repairs/replacement issues on our vehicles---ever looked at a polished tunnel on your sled after a trip up--even on a sled deck and washed when you get home---it is a joke!!
This stuff they are using is like instant rust or corrode!!
IMHO--plow the road and put down nothing!!! Maaybe it will keep some of the idiots off the highways up there.
I am with ya Kurt--This crap is unreal!!
H20SKE...
Second!!!!!!!!
3rd that. Its part of winter slow down and deal with it. I see way to many minivans pulling into snoparks, its way to easy for them to get there and even easier for them to get stuck after they are there, wtf do people think
G
Good to Go
Banned
Pretty sure it would be tough to get the state to pay. I agree with Paul leave the roads alone, if you can't drive in the weather we have here move somewhere else.
It depends on where you are at if you tell me what location I can tell you. The salt brine is way worse than the magnesium chloride. The mag is required to have a corrosion inhibitor but the salt brine is not. I have the stats on both if you want more info let me know.
State of Washington poluting our water!!
I-90 I beleive is the major concern for the "instant rust" that the State is supplying us all with!!!
I know we could not ever get the state to pay for our damages to our vehicles.
What the heck is this stuff doing to our water?? Where do they think it all goes??
PLOW AND PUT DOWN NOTHING!!!!
H20SKE...
I-90 I beleive is the major concern for the "instant rust" that the State is supplying us all with!!!
I know we could not ever get the state to pay for our damages to our vehicles.
What the heck is this stuff doing to our water?? Where do they think it all goes??
PLOW AND PUT DOWN NOTHING!!!!
H20SKE...
S
Supplicate
ACCOUNT CLOSED
I've never known mag to eat through aluminum, its what they use here on all the dirt/gravel roads during the summer for dust control and doesn't effect any of the trucks driving it. Not to mention that the guy that I know that distributes the stuff for the western US hauls it in aluminum trailers...
And BTW, from what I remember of mag; it usually contains corrosion inhibitors. I think your issue is the "salt brine" that was mentioned in the quote from wade.
same goes for the calcium chloride, they are both basically the same. Especially if they are coming from the utah facilities.
S
Supplicate
ACCOUNT CLOSED
That doesn't work here in Wyo, you just get more morons in the ditch. The best thing is watching the 4 miles from the Utah line to Evanston on eastbound I-80
You can tell the retards that leave their cruise control on because they all hit the ditch once they leave the salted roads of utah and hit the (sometimes) sanded roads of Wyo.
S
