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Washington fuel prices, how much can you take

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3.87 for diesel here in North Bend today, figure it will be 4 bucks by march. but its amazing how much of a difference there is from one town to another, MOB said it was 3.41 in auburn and its normaly 30 cents less at Safeway in Cle Elum!!!! go figure
 
Saw 3.98.9 for diesel last weekend.:eek: They must be gearing up for the drop in price for the summer blend :confused:
 
I'm still wondering why av gas and race fuel hasn't went up at all this year compared to regular gas ? Last year it varied quite a bit.
Not to say that i want it to go up !!!!!
 
Politicians !

If we ( all gas users ) would boycott fuel stations and not just SAY we won't drive or get gas today and really buck up and stop buying fuel from the import stations and just pick one and buy from that one ONLY, then maybe they might get the hint.......but I doubt it !

You will see me on my KTM this summer and not in my V-8 !


As for AV or race gas just shows you the price gouging !:eek:
 
I used to get really P.O.'ed at gas prices.....Then I think back to the early '70's when I had to cancel weekend m/c trips as all stations were closed. Since, I've been in 20 countries and was paying over $5/gal in England/Europe when the US was about $1.80..........Now, I just say: It is what it is....If gov't puts the squeeze on the fuel companies to lower profits, they just will lower production and there we sit.....If ya wanta dance, ya gotta pay the band!!!!!!!
 
I am with ya on the price of fuel---OUCH!! I have to drive my truck almost daily anywhere from 60 to 300 miles at 9MPG. But we will pay what we pay and just adjust our other spending habits to make up for gas taking such a big chunk of our incomes now.

As far as the Petrol companies--EXXON lets use--they claim a $40billion dollar profit last quarter--That is only 8% profit for them. How many of you could live in a 8% mark up? I know as a salesman that if I had to live on a 8% commision--I could make the house payment and satelite payment and be tapped out--no toys.

My .01

H20SKE...
 
As far as the Petrol companies--EXXON lets use--they claim a $40billion dollar profit last quarter--That is only 8% profit for them. How many of you could live in a 8% mark up? I know as a salesman that if I had to live on a 8% commision--I could make the house payment and satelite payment and be tapped out--no toys.


H20SKE...

OMG....! The voice of reason. A good point that is often forgotten.

Believe what you all want, but supply and demand is what it's all about. Best system going. And the international demand DOES affect our market. As does out inability to produce out own because of all the feel gooders.





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As does out inability to produce out own because of all the feel gooders.





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Odd comment from someone debunking with facts....

We do NOT have enough of "our own" as you call it to make a real difference. We can actually make a bigger impact with Biodiesel and Ethanol production rather than tapping ANWR and trashing the environment. This would provide jobs and income for our farmers. It would spread the wealth to more real working people instead of huge oil corporations and lining their institutional investors pockets.

By the way 100% Biodiesel is only $3.20 a gallon right now.

I have seen the impact of destroying the environment in the name of energy with the strip mining of coal in Pennsylvania. Nothing justifies this insane need for our excessive, greedy, wasteful consumption of energy. Many people driving 10 MPG huge trucks or SUV have no real need for owning these vehicles. No one needs a 5.7Liter Hemi in a passenger car for anything other than their own self-centered desires.

So if your electric bill is too high what do you do? You use less, so how about lowering the consumption by vehicles to reduce the demand? Raising the CAFE standards will help this.

We used to be at 28 MPG CAFE and then the current non-liberal occupants of the White House and Congress did not renew it and it has plummeted resulting in record oil consumption.

Record profits at these oil companies show what is really going on with these prices. If they were just keeping pace with the cost of materials their profits would remain the same instead of breaking previous records.

By the way, these profits are after all the write offs and "other" costs, so claiming that they are only 8% margin is ludicris. There are lots of areas to spend "costs" to make the margin look less, yet really benefit from all the extra hidden profits.

Profit sharing plans for employees is one area. Many employers give huge payouts in order to avoid the taxes. The theory is give it to the employees or give it to Uncle Sam.
 
Odd comment from someone debunking with facts....

We do NOT have enough of "our own" as you call it to make a real difference. We can actually make a bigger impact with Biodiesel and Ethanol production rather than tapping ANWR and trashing the environment. This would provide jobs and income for our farmers. And in the process, prices raise to the point that others can't afford the basic food: grain and corn. Cause and effect. Do gooders want to save the world and come up with this alternative fuel crap which in turn, creates new hard ships on those they scream to care about. It would spread the wealth to more real working people instead of huge oil corporations and lining their institutional investors pockets.Oh, and I don't suppose you have any money invested anywhere. No 401, or IRA, or stocks.... where do you think that money is invested? Who do you think benefits from the big bad institutions?

By the way 100% Biodiesel is only $3.20 a gallon right now.

I have seen the impact of destroying the environment in the name of energy with the strip mining of coal in Pennsylvania. Nothing justifies this insane need for our excessive, greedy, wasteful consumption of energy. Many people driving 10 MPG huge trucks or SUV have no real need for owning these vehicles. No one needs a 5.7Liter Hemi in a passenger car for anything other than their own self-centered desires.No doubt, you're right in your own mind. Next time you plug that computer into the wall, STFU, you hypocrite.

So if your electric bill is too high what do you do? You use less, so how about lowering the consumption by vehicles to reduce the demand? Raising the CAFE standards will help this. No doubt you'd be the first in line to legislate your views. CAFE is from 1975, was bad law then and still is. Feel good bill that does nothing but demand that we harvest more trees to support another bureaucracy

We used to be at 28 MPG CAFE and then the current non-liberal occupants of the White House and Congress did not renew it and it has plummeted resulting in record oil consumption.It's Bush's fault, of course

Record profits at these oil companies show what is really going on with these prices. If they were just keeping pace with the cost of materials their profits would remain the same instead of breaking previous records.

By the way, these profits are after all the write offs and "other" costs, so claiming that they are only 8% margin is ludicris. There are lots of areas to spend "costs" to make the margin look less, yet really benefit from all the extra hidden profits. So, you're saying they can't make as much as they want..? Quit buying their product then. Oh wait, that would require self control... You're right, of course. They should be owned and controlled by the government, then all the people would be protected and safe. A perfect socialist world you would then have.

Profit sharing plans for employees is one area. Many employers give huge payouts in order to avoid the taxes. The theory is give it to the employees or give it to Uncle Sam.I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here. It's called "contradiction".

Coming from a guy that sent me a PM complaining about peeps talking about politics and other non-sledding issues, you got a lot of nothing to say.

STFU
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By the way, these profits are after all the write offs and "other" costs, so claiming that they are only 8% margin is ludicris.

reminds me of a Seinfeld episode.

Kramer: The big companies just write it off....
Jerry: Do you even know what a write off is?
Kramer: .......No, do you?
Jerry: No, I don't.
Kramer: But they do it, they write it off........

Funny stuff.


GTG, you feelin better buddy? Kind of sounds like it.;)
 
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Odd comment from someone debunking with facts....

rather than tapping ANWR and trashing the environment. This would provide jobs and income for our farmers. It would spread the wealth to more real working people instead of huge oil corporations and lining their institutional investors pockets.

I have seen the impact of destroying the environment in the name of energy with the strip mining of coal in Pennsylvania.

Ok....tapping ANWR will not trash the enviroment. Despite what the sierra club says the caribou do not care about a metal pipe 8 feet off the ground, they walk under it, same as they do with the current one. Oh right, we've already tapped into oil fields in Alaska and had minimal effect on the environment, one more oil field won't make a difference. Tapping ANWR would provide jobs and income for our oil field workers, truckers, welders, laborers, operators (more oil field jobs) construction workers (new housing to hold the new workers) waitresses (feed the new workers) teachers (educate the new workers kids) etc, and so on. Not just CEOs would profit from ANWR. Strip mining in Penn has nothing to do with drilling in Alaska.
 
When it gets up above $3.30 I really watch how hard I step on the gas pedal, and I'll take my time getting up to the speed limit on the freeway. When the prices start to slowly fall again I'll only put about a half tank in my truck. No use filling up on gas that's going to be 6 to 10 cents cheaper a gallon later in the week.

Also, I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but if you have a gas credit card some will give you %5, or more off your purchase of gas. For example my Shell card is giving me $0.17 a gallon back at $3.45 per gallon if I use it at a Shell station. That's about 4-1/2 dollars back per fueling (25 gallons) which adds up.
 
Coming from a guy that sent me a PM complaining about peeps talking about politics and other non-sledding issues, you got a lot of nothing to say.

STFU
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Wow....LMAO....Dave's full of energy today!!!

H20ske. profit, above and beyond expenses...which as a business owner you find a way to expense the jet, sleds, truck etc... so that 8% goes to the bank for safe keeping....althought the numbers are just so big it sounds like gouging...I'm all for making profit if you have a product that is in demand.
 
Ok....tapping ANWR will not trash the enviroment. Despite what the sierra club says the caribou do not care about a metal pipe 8 feet off the ground, they walk under it, same as they do with the current one. Oh right, we've already tapped into oil fields in Alaska and had minimal effect on the environment, one more oil field won't make a difference. Tapping ANWR would provide jobs and income for our oil field workers, truckers, welders, laborers, operators (more oil field jobs) construction workers (new housing to hold the new workers) waitresses (feed the new workers) teachers (educate the new workers kids) etc, and so on. Not just CEOs would profit from ANWR. Strip mining in Penn has nothing to do with drilling in Alaska.

Obviously you and mtbarr64 have different definitions of trash (one more extreme, one less extreme). Oh and minimal effect? Valdez cough cough. Yah it is not in the bay, but it is a result of getting the oil out of the bay.
 
I want to thank everyone for driving gas guzzling SUV's and 1 ton trucks. I think you should all cut back in other areas (who needs lights and heat?) and drive more. My oil stock is looking better and better! ;) :D

Long live the free market!!!! :beer; :beer;

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Your president was asked today what he thought about fuel approaching $4.00 a gallon and I sh!t you not his answer was " where is that, I didn't know that" Is this guy for real? CNN

I feel very STUPID for voting for this guy

Corn based ethanol takes more energy to make than the oil it saves. Only sugar based ethanol is more efficent not to mention that the explosion in corn prices for it and oil prices have caused commodities to go up 100-1000% in the last 5 years.

Untap ANWR NOW! Having untapped oil in the ground when your economy has gone in the tank is real smart. Raise your CAFE to 35 and force the big three to make $5.00 a gallon easier to swallow.

I was a diehard republican all my life but this guy embarrass' me. And I used to think Clinton was the worst prez we ever had!
 
OMG....! The voice of reason. A good point that is often forgotten.

Believe what you all want, but supply and demand is what it's all about. Best system going. And the international demand DOES affect our market. As does out inability to produce out own because of all the feel gooders.





:beer;

Yeah, just wait until china starts consuming more oil, then were screwed.
 
Your president was asked today what he thought about fuel approaching $4.00 a gallon and I sh!t you not his answer was " where is that, I didn't know that" Is this guy for real? CNN

I feel very STUPID for voting for this guy

Corn based ethanol takes more energy to make than the oil it saves. Only sugar based ethanol is more efficent not to mention that the explosion in corn prices for it and oil prices have caused commodities to go up 100-1000% in the last 5 years.

Untap ANWR NOW! Having untapped oil in the ground when your economy has gone in the tank is real smart. Raise your CAFE to 35 and force the big three to make $5.00 a gallon easier to swallow.

I was a diehard republican all my life but this guy embarrass' me. And I used to think Clinton was the worst prez we ever had!

At least your willing to admit your mistake. The scary part is the amount of support he still has. Thats a good percentage of the population that are a bunch of morons.
 
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