Used motors

[SNOW JW]

I have a question for some of you.

I bought a used motor, ran it for a short time and resold it I sold it as a used motor. The motor ran without issue at all it ran great infact.

The guy that bought the motor from me has said through his e-mails this motor started and ran fine. Now, more than a month later he says he used it once and it blew up. So he wants to take me to small claims court with a lawyer. He doesn't want his money back but he wants me to cover all the alleged rebuild costs ($3k).

With it being an older performance motor (2006), I did not express any warranty or imply there was a warranty before he bought it. He says he has had a mechanic tear this down and supposedly the motor was previously rebuilt and says it was not build up to his specs as he would have rebuilt it. (I did not ever tear this motor down I just ran it)

I'm curious as to what position any of you think I should take in this matter. He tried to submit a claim through paypal and they denied it.

I am not bashing him in any way.

Let me know Thanks

 

[swampwater]

I don't know about Montana but most small claims courts do not allow lawyers, it is just you and him presenting your evidence and the judge makes a decision, kind like judge judy. If you made no false statements or gave no guarantees he will be wasting his court fees. Swampy

 

[rynokron]

When you buy used, you take your chances. If you feel like it was in good condition when you sold it, tell him to F off. I bought a boat from a co-worker during the winter. First trip out the next summer it ran like crap. I got lucky that he took care of it. Did not really expect him to. Pretty sure he knew it had problems.

 

[SNOW JW]

Thanks guys were do I find these laws online for small claims in MT

 

[summit800]

small claims is a joke, even if he won, good luck collecting , court doesn't collect money for ya

 

[m8magicandmystery]

you have to respond how you would like to be treated...personally its hard to justify three grand out of your pocket...i would offer to get him parts for your cost etc and maybe some real meal discounts on your other products just a bit above your cost offered to him for a period of time..that way its a win win....of course if you put that to him and he takes you to court it will be seen as a sign of guilt so the offer has to be not admissable and there are ways of doing it...i think the offer is titled without prejudice,,,??

 

[XC700116]

I don't know how many times this has come up on here, BUT I always say a used motor is a used motor, PERIOD No warranty, no money backs when you screw it up.

Motors are so susceptable to operator/installer error that you cannot be expected to be responsable. If he takes you to small claims you'll win and he'll have wasted money that he could have used to fix the motor.

 

[Clarke673]

How could a rebuild cost $3000? Even if you buy all new everything, its not $3000. Hell you can buy a new one in a crate for that much???

I sold a guy a 900 RMK engine that i was hard on but it always ran good, told him the truth on everything and told him no warranties at all. He tore it apart and said he was kind of worried about the crank cause it had some play, but it is still running 2000 miles later.

I sold a guy a 2003 600 VES with no warranties. He took it apart, rebuilt it himself, and put it together himself. First ride he wiped the crank out(supposedly, but HOW????) and he expected me to pay for a new $2000 engine out of pocket (sold it to him for $800 as RTR). On top of all that, when he had it apart he said everything looked new.

I told him to delete me number and to FAWK off.

I got a engine from BOC and had it for about a month. The pull cord snapped and wiped out the water pump belt cause the engine to overheat. The engine was warranted but it was obviously my fault so I paid a family friend to rebuild it for $800 and found out that BOC had ported the engine and I didn’t even pay for it!

All you can do is be honest and courteous, and if that’s not enough, learn how to be an ******* at times.

 

[pernikm]

you can only warrantee your work. That is a used engine. If you had installed it and set it up, he might have cause. I would say it is quite arguable that it was his set up the ruined the motor. Buyer beware.

 

[POLZIN]

you can only warrantee your work. That is a used engine. If you had installed it and set it up, he might have cause. I would say it is quite arguable that it was his set up the ruined the motor. Buyer beware.

Agreed! NOT your problem ! to many variables that are/where beyond your control beside the fact it was a used motor ! I would try to help him find a better deal than 3k but thats it and not even that if he's an A-hole!Your rep speaks for itself I am sure you will go the extra mile to try and tomake him happy,but some eople just are not going to be happy no matter what !

 

[SAWYER]

used is used. tell him to go pack sand

 

[donbrown]

Thanks guys were do I find these laws online for small claims in MT

http://doj.mt.gov/consumer/consumer/smallclaimscourt.asp

You should only be liable AT MOST for the cost of engine and shipping (from you) IF and ONLY IF IT IS PROVEN you knowingly sold a defective motor.

I would keep any pics, records of maintewnance, videoes of you using the motor and let him know you have pics and videoes of the motor prior to shipping.

Buyer should have checked the motor with a COMPLETE DIAGNOSTIC to confirm its reliability and integrity.

How do you, as the seller, know it was installed properly?

 

[AmericanOutlaw]

more than a month later

Nuff said.A few hours later you might want to see what happened but a month?

My warranty expires at the garage door.